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- Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:42:31 +0000
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Summary: RQ-142 Are non-required PSVI properties forbidden?
(PSVIProp)
Product: XML Schema
Version: 1.1 only
Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
Keywords: needsDrafting
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: Structures: XSD Part 1
AssignedTo: ht@w3.org
ReportedBy: cmsmcq@w3.org
QAContact: www-xml-schema-comments@w3.org
This issue was originally reported by Lisa Martin.
There are various statements in the spec of the form:
If some condition, x, is true, then, in the post-schema-validation
infoset it has the properties a,b,c ...
For example:
If an element is valid with respect to a type definition, as per
Element Locally Valid (Type), in the post-schema-validation
infoset the item has a property ...
Furthermore, the item has one of the following alternative
sets of properties:
[type definition]
...
Is it true that if condition x does *not hold*, then the processor is
*not permitted* to include properties a,b,c in the PSVI, even if such
information is available? I'm assuming this is what was intended,
based on the clarifications drafted for the Query WG on the topic of
PSVI.
If this is the case, should the Structures spec clarify this?
...perhaps with wording similiar to: "The properties a, b, c are in
the PSVI if and only if ..."
As an aside, wouldn't it be useful to get at type information for an
element that was not valid, if the processor had that information?
This item was discussed in the meeting of 2004-03-25
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2004Mar/0133.html).
Three points were identified as close to consensus:
1 We should eliminate any dependency on the absence of specific
properties (i.e. important situations should be describable
and distinguishable in terms of properties and their values,
without appeal to the absence of particular properties), or if
this proves unfeasible in particular cases we should say
explicitly that a property is present "if and only if" certain
conditions apply. Any remaining "if" (if any) would be a
true conditional, not an equivalence.
2 Any specification of a class of processors (including ours) can
require specific additional information not in the PSVI, though
should note that interoperability is better if applications depend
only on the properties present in the PSVI as we define it.
3 In our own specification of processor classes, we should be
explicit that processors may provide additional information.
(Or alternatively be explicit that they must not -- but the
chair believes the WG consensus was to allow it.)
This item was discussed in the meeting of 2004-04-01
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2004Apr/0003.html).
Phase 1 agreement was reached on point 1 above. The other two points
were moved to RQ-144.
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