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Canonical, Lexical, and Value Spaces

From: Matthew Fuchs <matt@westbridgetech.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:09:30 -0600
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As I mentioned during the call, the discussion on 110b leads me to think 
that we d be better off representing the relationship between the lexical 
space and the value space as an adjunction.  The manager s summary of what 
follows is that this would link lexical forms to the value space through 
the canonical space.  The value here is that we wouldn t have needed to 
claim that 2.0 and 2.00000 are the same in the value space as only 2.0 is a 
canonical form, only 2.0 is in the value space and (from this perspective) 
2.00000 is just another lexical form for 2.0 .  In other words, the current 
view seems to be that the following diagram commutes:

Lexicals                     Values


2.000 -------------- 2.000

      |                               |

      | a?                          | b

     \|/              g             \|/

2.0     <--------------   2.0

The bottom arrow is claimed to be a bijection, and for that to work, b must 
be the identity arrow (i.e., 2.0 = 2.000).  But given that g is a 
bijection, we already have a unique surjection from the lexical 
representations to the canonical ones the arrow a? is g (b(f( 2.000 ))) 
(where g is the inverse of g [which is the restriction of f to the 
canonicals]).  But given that we already have a unique a?, why not dump f 
and b, giving the following diagram:

Lexicals                     Values



      | a?

     \|/              g

2.0     <--------------   2.0

In which case, it is obvious that no value space can support more 
information than is provided by the canonical forms.  The issue of whether 
2.000 = 2.0 is handled on the lexical side, and the issue of whether 
2.0=2.000 is rendered irrelevant.  While this may only apply to the numeric 
types, I think it may still be worth stating, as it better separates the 
value space from issues arriving from the lexical forms.  It s also useful 
in that the lexical forms could appear (as we now well know) to convey more 
information than the canonical form can, and this would unambiguously state 

I d also note that this makes the relationship between the lexical space 
and the value space an adjunction:

2.000 -------u------ 2.0 =UF( 2.000 )    2.0=F( 2.000 )

       |                            |                              |

       |                            |                              |

       >                         U(>)                          !>

       |                            |                              |

      \|/                          \|/                            \|/

01.654000 u---- 1.654                      1.654

While this may seem obscure at the moment, I think it becomes essential 
both for building operators on these types, and provides a basis for 
embedding all the numeric types into a single larger type, because the 
different datatypes have different adjunctions into the larger space.

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