- From: Steven R. Newcomb <srn@techno.com>
- Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:22:01 -0500
- To: ricko@allette.com.au
- CC: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk, www-xml-schema-comments@w3.org
[Rick Jelliffe:] > In other words, namespaces are dead (for database documents) as ways > of uniquely naming elements independent of any other > considerations. They are now > "name-in-a-particular-schema-in-a-particular-schema-language--spaces". > The practical question is now what to do? Should we just lay down and > die; should we go back to architectural forms; should we invent a > parallel namespace PI that is concerned with uniquely identifying > names and not with tieing elements to a schema? I'm glad you brought this up, Rick, because I have never heard a good argument as to why architectural forms were rejected in the first place. To me, it looks as though they were rejected simply because many RDBMS applications professionals don't yet think in object-oriented terms. (But that's changing.) Architectural forms handle multiple inheritance very gracefully, and they are based on a paradigm (the Grove Paradigm) within which re-usable software modules for inheritable architectures can cooperate in arbitrary combinations within applications that understand multiple vocabularies, even when vocabularies are combined arbitrarily in XML resources. Architectural forms work with or without a DTD; with architectural forms, the DTD becomes merely a markup-minimization device. "Meta-DTDs" (or "meta-Schemas", if you prefer) are the basis of primary syntactic validation. "Architectural definition documents" are the basis of subsequent semantic validation. Architectural "property sets" expose the information sets of resources that inherit architectures. Architectural forms provide a means of validating resources against the real syntactic and semantic requirements involved in using what are commonly called "vocabularies", thus meeting a real, basic requirement that W3C "namespaces" have never met, and that *vendor-neutral e-commerce must have*. For a general introduction, see my slides from XTech '99, http://www.hytime.org/papers/srnXTech99 I hate the idea of further fracturing the solution space with yet another PI which will be in partial conflict with other XML features. Now is the time to have a sensible, hard-working solution for inheriting multiple vocabularies. XML Schema isn't quite there (yet), but it could easily get where it needs to be, and I have high hopes for it. Anyway, until I see something better, my money's on the Grove Paradigm. I don't see anything else (yet) that will really meet all the requirements and really provide a stable path forward for the indefinite future. If we already know a correct answer, and our need for a correct answer is urgent, why don't we accept it and improve on it? In any case, the Grove Paradigm is already inevitable in ERP and other high-end corporate memory applications, including Topic Maps. -Steve -- Steven R. Newcomb, President, TechnoTeacher, Inc. srn@techno.com http://www.techno.com ftp.techno.com voice: +1 972 231 4098 (at ISOGEN: +1 214 953 0004 x137) fax +1 972 994 0087 (at ISOGEN: +1 214 953 3152) 3615 Tanner Lane Richardson, Texas 75082-2618 USA
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