- From: james anderson <james.anderson@setf.de>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:48:16 +0200
- To: www-xml-query-comments@w3.org
I am working my way through the 20010608 use cases - for the moment still grappling with ambiguity in the grammar. I arrived at the NS use case. The description of the respective document type definition runs as follows. "1.7.2 Document Type Definition (DTD) DTDs are not fully compatible with namespaces as they can not express the equality of nodes in the same namespace, but different namespace proxies. In a later version of this paper, an XML Schema should be added here." I suggest that the first statement is neither, in general, true, nor do the problems which might arise as a consequence of naive dtd interpretation apply to the use case as formulated. Which would imply that the delay suggested by the second statement is unwarranted. As an aside, DTDs are, in themselves, compatible with namespaces. XML processors may well, as an unfortunate rule, ignore the namespace information which is encoded in a dtd which leads them to interpret homographs and synonyms naively and to misinterpret names. This does not mean that a DTD cannot express the "equality of nodes ...". A dtd which does express these relationships would, when taken together with a document which depends its correct interpretation and used as a basis for XML-1.0 validation, lead to the determination, that the document is invalid. This also does not mean that a DTD cannot express the information. It just means that the rules for XML-1.0 validation are not compatible with universal names. That is no surprise. There is little reason to expect to be able to infer anything useful about entities which include universal names when one operates on them in a lexical domain. For some inexplicable reasons, the standard response to this is to "wait for schemas". Whatever the reasons may be, they should not impede a complete formulation for this use case. First, the NS case, at least at first examination, does not depend on the correct interpretation of ambiguous qualified names. There may well be an issue with modularity in content models, but this can be handled by following simplified modularity guidelines. Second, althought there is an instance of synonymy in the content of Seller, it is not clear that it figures in the use case, and it could well be handled with variability in the query and in the content models for High_Bidder and Seller. Third, in the only instance where synonymy might figure, Q7, the query specifies a wild namespace. In summary, the purported problem does not even affect the case. In an effort to demonstrate this, I have posted, for examination, a transcribed version of the data file (AuctionWatchList.xml[1]) together with two DTDs (AuctionWatchList.dtd[2] and record.dtd[3]). I have also posted the result of reserializing the parsed (validated) document.[4] While this testing was done with a processor which operates directly on universal names, the same ends should well be achievable with a module-aware DTD. ... [1] http://homepage.mac.com/james_anderson/XML/1-7-NS/AuctionWatchList.xml [2] http://homepage.mac.com/james_anderson/XML/1-7-NS/AuctionWatchList.dtd [3] http://homepage.mac.com/james_anderson/XML/1-7-NS/record.dtd [4] http://homepage.mac.com/james_anderson/XML/1-7-NS/AuctionWatchListOut.xml
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