- From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:19:25 -0800
- To: "Savas Parastatidis" <Savas.Parastatidis@newcastle.ac.uk>, <www-ws@w3.org>
That doesn't jive with why stateful services that are pinned at a particular node still perform substantially better than stateful/connection-oriented protocols. And I don't know why it's hard/impossible to move tpc connections from one node to another. I've meant to look into this for some time but never gotten around to it. Kind of like the air I breathe analogies. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Savas Parastatidis [mailto:Savas.Parastatidis@newcastle.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:12 PM > To: David Orchard; www-ws@w3.org > Subject: RE: Stateful Web Services... > > Dave, > > > Even your quotation of stateless interaction doesn't make it clear. > Roy > > has said that a cookie with a session id is a stateless interaction to > a > > stateful service. This differs from something like ftp in which the > > connection contains part of the state. One way that http scales > better > > than ftp is because http can tear down the connections because of the > > stateless interactions, and connections are very costly to maintain > open > > for potentially large numbers of clients. > > > > Now as to what's going on at the plumbing level in tcp/ip stacks I > > haven't a clue about. Why ftp creating and keeping large #s of > > connections open with state being embodied in the ftp/tcp connection > is > > soo much more costly and less scalable than an http stateless tcp > > connection is a mystery to me. Especially when software can do SSL > > connections that can be fairly chatty and bandwidth consuming. > > > Isn't it the case that because of the stateless connections one can farm > the processing of the requests and achieve higher levels of scalability > even if more bandwidth is consumed? > > .savas.
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