- From: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 01:14:06 -0400 (EDT)
- To: mnot@akamai.com (Mark Nottingham)
- Cc: www-ws@w3.org
Hi Mark. One important general comment. After reading this, I get the impression that it is for the use of SOAP that I like to call "tunnelling" (which includes RPC), and doesn't attempt to cover the REST-friendly use of SOAP. I know you and I have been over the differences before, but even if you're not yet convinced, hopefully you at least acknowledge that SOAP can use its underlying protocol in different ways. I think you need to say this somewhere. Here's my REST-centric comments to your proposal. (for those not familiar with REST, see http://conveyor.com/RESTwiki) > <p>Response Caching is directed by a response Header block; unlike HTTP > caching (where the client can send Cache-Control directives), the server has > exclusive control over cache coherence. Additionally, coherence is explicit; > whilst the HTTP allows a heuristic to be used to determine freshness, > Response Cache implementations MUST NOT cache responses which do not contain > explicit coherence information. Although this version of the specification > only includes one cache coherence mechanism (and no means of validation or > invalidation), it is anticipated that these mechanisms will be defined by > future revisions and/or extensions.</p> SOAP bound to HTTP in a REST style would reuse the HTTP caching model. If you wanted to suggest some extensions that would find themselves into the SOAP header, that's ok, though unless they're SOAP-specific I'd suggest doing it with HTTP headers. Either way though, the Module itself will require an extended SOAP/HTTP binding, since there's bound (pun not intended) to be interactions - unless you want to suggest that the normative SOAP/HTTP binding requires the use of "Cache-Control: no-cache" (please don't 8-). > <p>Response caching is implemented by three distinct caches; the Message > Cache, the Service Expression Cache and the Message Expression Cache.</p> > > <p>The <strong>Message Cache</strong> contains individual SOAP messages which > have been cached, and is indexed by both the <strong>Service Key</strong> > (which identifies the particular Web Service being accessed) and the > <strong>Message Key</strong> (which contains to the combination of request > charateristics that determine whether the cached response can be used). This > dual-key approach accommodates the common practice of exposing multiple Web > Services through a single Service URI.</p> With REST, each resource provides a single "service", so this distinction isn't required. Later, MB
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