- From: Arthur Ryman <ryman@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:29:47 -0400
- To: Jean-Jacques Moreau <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>
- Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org, www-ws-desc-request@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OF9FD53B45.AB41B2BE-ON852571F0.00491213-852571F0.004A22CF@ca.ibm.com>
JJ, Thx for the comments. I agree with the edits. Arthur Ryman, IBM Software Group, Rational Division blog: http://ryman.eclipsedevelopersjournal.com/ phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077 assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411 fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920 mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@fido.ca Jean-Jacques Moreau <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr> Sent by: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org 09/21/2006 09:06 AM To Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA cc www-ws-desc@w3.org Subject Re: Revised Proposed Part 1 Text for REQUIRED Extension Properties: Model vs Instance I like this. Quite akin to how SOAP extensions can override the SOAP processing model. So it's good to see some similarity in W3C specs. Some nitty-gritty: - as defined by the WSDL 2.0 Core Language specification >>(this specification)<< - is only REQUIRED >>when<< the extension JJ. Arthur Ryman wrote: > > Recall that as implementors were working with the extensions in Part > 2, the meaning of the word REQUIRED caused some confusion. The problem > was that since extensions are themselves optional, what did it mean > for an extension to contain a REQUIRED property? The answer that > everyone agrees with is that you have to state up front what > extensions are in effect before you can interpret the word REQUIRED. > Therefore when reading an extension spec, you interpret REQUIRED to > mean that the property is REQUIRED if and only if the extension is in > effect. > > Implementors further noticed that some properties only made sense if > other extensions or properties or property values were present. This > led to the idea that extensions should explicitly specify co-occurence > contraints. For example, the SOAP binding make use of the HTTP > binding, but the HTTP properties should only be present if the SOAP > binding specifies a transport of HTTP. This type of property should be > marked as OPTIONAL and the extensions specification should add > constraints that define when it is required. > > Furthermore, it was realized that we need to allow one extension to > override the semantics of another extension. For example, one > extension may demote a REQUIRED property in one extension to OPTIONAL > status. This is fine as long as the combined set of extensions in > effect are mutually consistent. > > I therefore proposed that we spell these considerations out explicitly > and I proposed text [1]. We discussed this at length in the July 20 > telecon [2]. I've update the proposed text below, but I'd like to > resolve one additional terminology issue. > > One of the issues that came up was my use of the terms "component > model" and "component model instance". Glen felt these terms were used > incorrectly. He felt that a "component model" was the set of > components that were created from a WSDL document, i.e. that Glen's > model is what I was calling an instance. I've thought about this and > would like to defend my use of the terms. > > I think we should be using the term "model" in the same sense as it is > used by OMG, e.g. in Model-Driven Development, or Unified Modelling > Language (UML). In UML one creates "models" of systems, e.g. by > drawing class diagrams. The correspondence with WSDL is that a > component spec is like a class diagram. Our core spec contains a set > of component specs and it therefore like a UML class model. In fact > our primer contains an infoset diagram [3] that looks very much like a > UML class diagram. I therefore propose that we adopt the meaning of > "component model" to be the specification and not the set of > components from a given WSDL document. > > If we agree with the use of "component model" to mean the core > specification as defined by Part 1, and we agree that in order to > interpret REQUIRED for extensions we need to state what extensions are > in effect, then I would like to propose that we adopt the definition > of "extended component model" to mean the core component model PLUS > the set of extensions that are in effect. > > Here's the updated text: > > 6.4 Validity of Extended Component Model Instances > > As stated above, WSDL 2.0 provides a component model extensibility > mechanism which allows new properties and components to be specified. An > extension specification may also add new constraints or modify existing > ones. The validity of a component model instance is therefore > dependent on > the set of extension specifications that it is asserted to conform to. > > An /extended component model/ is the component model as defined by the > WSDL 2.0 > Core Language specification together with a set of extension > specifications that are in effect. A component model instance is valid > with respect to an > extended component model if it conforms to the core language and the > set of extension specifications that are in effect, with the provision > that any extension > specification may explicitly override any constraint in another > specification. > > 6.4.1 Semantics of REQUIRED Properties in Extended Component Models > > When an extension specification defines a property to be REQUIRED, > this is > to be understood that the property is only REQUIRED the extension > specification is in effect. > An extension specification may override the REQUIRED constraint on > any property defined in another specification and make it OPTIONAL. > Thus, > a property is only REQUIRED when the following conditions hold: > > * the extension specification is in effect > > * no other extension specification in the extension component model > overrides this constraint > > An extension specification may also define co-occurence constraints that > further qualify the conditions under which an OPTIONAL property is > required. > > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2006Jul/0076.html > [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03 > [3] > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-wsdl20-primer-20060327/#wsdl-infoset-diagram > > Arthur Ryman, > IBM Software Group, Rational Division > > blog: http://ryman.eclipsedevelopersjournal.com/ > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077 > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411 > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920 > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@fido.ca
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