- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:21:42 -0700
- To: "Rogers, Tony" <Tony.Rogers@ca.com>, "Arthur Ryman" <ryman@ca.ibm.com>, "Youenn Fablet" <youenn.fablet@crf.canon.fr>
- Cc: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>, <www-ws-desc-request@w3.org>
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Yes, though those numbers are an artifact of the comparison stylesheet. I changed it to stop comparing an element and its children if the name isn't what you expect, which reports more accurately the number of failures of the first test at 6 rather than 384. Those failures are the four missing bits + two (redundant) warnings about the wrong number of children elements. An XML diff of those files which isn't so sensitive to missing elements reveals 46 differences - the four missing bits plus their effect on canonicalized xml:id values throughout the document. Either way is sufficient to pinpoint the problem fairly quickly. Looking through the results a little more, most of the problems are differences in the available elementDeclarations and typeDefinitions (my problem or Woden's TBD), and the lack of import support in my stylesheet. ________________________________ From: Rogers, Tony [mailto:Tony.Rogers@ca.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:04 PM To: Jonathan Marsh; Arthur Ryman; Youenn Fablet Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org; www-ws-desc-request@w3.org Subject: RE: Component Model Results I'm pleased to see that there are some with 0 failures - that's looking good. Not so good to see the ones with hundreds, though :-) Tony ________________________________ From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org on behalf of Jonathan Marsh Sent: Fri 28-Apr-06 11:42 To: Arthur Ryman; Youenn Fablet Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org; www-ws-desc-request@w3.org Subject: RE: Component Model Results I managed to run a pass between my stylesheet and Arthur's files. None of them matched perfectly of course, but I was able to fix my stylesheet to get rid of many of the errors: I didn't put xml:id attributes on all components - just those that needed referring to. Also, I omitted the build-in simple-type definitions. I'm sure there are many more errors in my stylesheet, which doesn't even attempt any wsdl:imports. However, for the first file I looked at carefully I think there's a Woden problem ;-) My test result includes /descriptionComponent/elementDeclarations (missing in Woden), with two components. These are referred to from the interfaceMessageReferenceComponents through the elementDeclaration property (also missing in Woden). My typeDefinitions element contains two components (missing in Woden), the cinfoct and ccinfct types defined in the included schema. I also added a "folder" element to test-suite.xml to enable me to build paths flexibly. One of the id/foldernames didn't match the file system so I fixed that. It would be nice to add a "good/bad" attribute so I don't have to string-search the id. ;-) Checked in. Lots of items on my task list now to clean up the results. Here's the raw numbers though (missing elements in the aspirant generate lots of error messages.) I'm encouraged by the three passing marks! Results documents/good/Chameleon-1G getBalance.wsdl Number of failures: 384 documents/good/Chameleon-2G getBalance.wsdl Number of failures: 55 documents/good/Chameleon-3G getBalance.wsdl Number of failures: 384 documents/good/Chameleon-4G getBalance.wsdl Number of failures: 384 documents/good/CreditCardFaults-1G use-credit-card-faults.wsdl Number of failures: 448 documents/good/GreatH-1G primer-hotelReservationService.wsdl Number of failures: 46 documents/good/Import-1G XSDImport.wsdl Number of failures: 66 documents/good/Import-2G XSDImport.wsdl Number of failures: 66 documents/good/Import-2G XSDImport2.wsdl Number of failures: 117 documents/good/ImportedWSDL-1G retrieveDetails.wsdl Number of failures: 4 documents/good/ImportedWSDL-1G updateDetails.wsdl Number of failures: 140 documents/good/Interface-1G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-2G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-3G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-4G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-5G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-6G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/Interface-7G Interface.wsdl Number of failures: 390 documents/good/MultipleInlineItems-1G retrieveItems.wsdl Number of failures: 11 documents/good/SchemaId-1G schemaIds.wsdl Number of failures: 54 documents/good/SchemaLocationFragment-1G Items.wsdl Number of failures: 3 documents/good/Service-1G Service.wsdl Number of failures: 0 documents/good/Service-2G Service.wsdl Number of failures: 0 documents/good/Service-3G Service.wsdl Number of failures: 0 documents/good/ServiceReference-1G reservationDetails.wsdl Number of failures: 162 documents/good/ServiceReference-1G reservationList.wsdl Number of failures: 194 documents/good/TicketAgent-1G TicketAgent.wsdl Number of failures: 88 documents/good/WeathSvc-1G WeathSvc.wsdl Number of failures: 149 documents/good/XsImport-1G reservation.wsdl Number of failures: 11 documents/good/XsImport-2G reservationDetails.wsdl Number of failures: 93 documents/good/XsImport-2G reservationItems.wsdl Number of failures: 3 documents/good/XsImport-3G reservationDetails.wsdl Number of failures: 93 documents/good/XsImport-3G reservationItems.wsdl Number of failures: 3 ________________________________ From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Ryman Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:10 AM To: Youenn Fablet Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org; www-ws-desc-request@w3.org Subject: Re: Component Model Results *********************** Warning: Your file, documents.zip, contains more than 32 files after decompression and cannot be scanned. *********************** Youenn, I thought I fixed the xs:string problem which you previuosly reported. I'll doublecheck. Here is my view on the purpose of the testing effort. At this point we are really debugging the spec. It is reasonable for a given implementation to fail some tests. We are not certifying implementations. However, if no implementation can successfully implement some feature, then we need to understand why, and potentially alter the spec. Interoperability is one way to test the correctness of implementations since it is unlikely that they will possess bugs that precisely cancel eachother. Even if just one implementation implements a feature, we can visually inspect it for correctness. Arthur Ryman, IBM Software Group, Rational Division blog: http://ryman.eclipsedevelopersjournal.com/ phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077 assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411 fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920 mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@fido.ca Youenn Fablet <youenn.fablet@crf.canon.fr> Sent by: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org 04/27/2006 11:49 AM To www-ws-desc@w3.org cc Subject Component Model Results *********************** Warning: Your file, documents.zip, contains more than 32 files after decompression and cannot be scanned. *********************** Hi all, I have just finished generating the component model dumps of the wsdl good documents. I just picked the test-suite.xml file and generated my test script through XSLT. Fairly quick in fact :-) Please find attached the results. Two side notes: - There is still a problem with 3 testsuite wsdl files (SchemaLocationFragment-1G/Items.wsdl, XSImport-2G/reservationItems.wsdl, XSImport-3G/reservationItems.wsdl). All of these files make reference to XSD data types through QNames but with a wrong namespace. I have fixed these files locally (type="string" is now type="xs:string") and produced a dump with these fixed files. I added the fixed wsdl files in the attached zip file. - Our implementation still fails on the Import-2G example as it raises an error when trying to create two components of the same type with the same ns+name, the reason being that we have not implemented the component equivalence rules. Anyway, the parser still produces a component model dump. I have a process question related to the last point: do we really need two interoperable implementations for every aspect of the spec, e.g. the equivalence rules ? Or is it sufficient to document the reasons behind different behaviors ? Hope this helps anyway, Regards, Youenn
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