- From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:09:48 +0200 (CEST)
- To: Jeffrey Schlimmer <jeffsch@windows.microsoft.com>
- cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org
Jeffrey,
at first, your proposal is very attractive, but there is an
issue with an implication of your proposal:
Your proposal implies that we allow omitting operations from
bindings, on the premise that they are handled "the default way".
I believe specifying what can and cannot be omitted and what it
means *and doing it cleanly with respect to the layering* will be
a considerable task; the result might in fact confuse more than
help newcomers to WSDL.
Therefore I support the addition of the use, encodingStyle and
namespace attributes on soap:binding element, but I'd like to
only make these the default values in case of omitting the
attributes on the other appropriate soap:* elements.
I strongly suggest that we discuss the issue of omitting
operations from a binding separately as these two things are
independent - your proposal makes sense and brings some benefit
even without omitting operations in bindings.
Best regards,
Jacek Kopecky
Senior Architect, Systinet Corporation
http://www.systinet.com/
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Jeffrey Schlimmer wrote:
>
> In the case where operations are all bound in the same way, the existing
> SOAP binding is repetitious. A straightforward way to simplify this for
> the common case is to allow the SOAP binding attribute information items
> (AII) to be placed as defaults on the soap:binding element information
> item (EII) define that AII placed on children of soap:binding would
> override the default, and allow the soap:operation EII to be omitted if
> they do not override any defaults.
>
> This is not a proposal to eliminate the ability to define an
> operation-by-operation binding; it is only a proposal to simplify the
> default case where all operations within a portType are bound the same
> way.
>
> The table below summarizes where WSDL 1.1 defines the SOAP binding AII.
>
> EII \ AII @style @use @encodingStyle @namespace
> --------------------------------------------------------
> soap:binding OK
> soap:operation OK[*]
> soap:body OK OK OK
> soap:header OK OK OK
> soap:fault OK OK OK
> soap:headerFault OK OK OK
>
> Where [*] overrides value from parent.
>
>
> The proposal is to change the definition of the SOAP binding AII as
> shown in the table below.
>
> EII \ AII @style @use @encodingStyle @namespace
> --------------------------------------------------------
> soap:binding OK OK OK OK
> soap:operation OK[*]
> soap:body OK[*] OK[*] OK[*]
> soap:header OK[*] OK[*] OK[*]
> soap:fault OK[*] OK[*] OK[*]
> soap:headerFault OK[*] OK[*] OK[*]
>
>
> EXAMPLE
>
> In the default case, where all the operations are bound the same way,
> this should simplify the binding significantly. For example, in WSDL
> 1.1, a SOAP rpc/encoded example in WSDL 1.1 would look like:
>
> <binding name="StockQuoteSoapBinding"
> type="tns:StockQuotePortType">
> <soap:binding transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"
> style="rpc" />
> <operation name="GetTradePrice">
> <input>
> <soap:body use="encoded"
> namespace="http://example.com/stockquote"
> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/>
> </input>
> <output>
> <soap:body use="encoded"
> namespace="http://example.com/stockquote"
> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/>
> </output>
> </operation>
> ...
> </binding>
>
> Where ... has to be repeated for each operation in the portType.
>
> By contrast, the same example given the proposal would look like:
>
> <binding name="StockQuoteSoapBinding"
> type="tns:StockQuotePortType">
> <soap:binding transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"
> style="rpc"
> use="encoded"
> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
> namespace="http://example.com/stockquote" />
> </binding>
>
> A SOAP document/literal example given the proposal would look like:
>
> <binding name="StockQuoteSoapBinding"
> type="tns:StockQuotePortType">
> <soap:binding transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"
> style="document"
> use="literal" />
> </binding>
>
> EOF
>
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