RE: MOM and reliable messaging article by Chris

Ugo,

I think that I can provide an authoritative response:) Please see below.

Cheers,

Christopher Ferris
Architect, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
phone: +1 508 234 3624

www-ws-arch-request@w3.org wrote on 05/12/2003 01:46:45 PM:

> 
> I read the article and I found the section "WS-ReliableMessaging as 
middleware interoperability 
> protocol" both interesting and unclear regarding the proposed solution. 
The section says:
> 
> "We believe that the most important prospect for the 
WS-ReliableMessaging protocol will be to 
> provide the standard protocol for interoperability between different 
vendors' message oriented 
> middleware environments. In this scenario, we envisage that 
WS-ReliableMessaging would be 
> augmented with a set of standardized WSDL portTypes and bindings that 
would be specific to 
> endpoint managers. These standardized portTypes and bindings would be 
implemented by vendors of 
> messaging middleware products to enable messages from other middleware 
environments to be 
> reliably, and interoperably exchanged with their own".
> 
> What is not clear to me is what type of transport the 
WS-ReliableMessaging protocol would use in 
> this scenario. Would it be HTTP? Would it be a new transport 
specifically designed to support 

For interoperability purposes the binding would likely be HTTP, but other 
protocols might be suitable 
as well (e.g. BEEP). 

> reliable messaging and still to be standardized? (Evidently it cannot be 
one of the existing MOM 
> protocols, or JMS providers, since they all have their own wire protocol 
implementation and only 
> one endpoint manager would be able to understand it).

Well, it certainly *could* be, but the likelihood of that happenstance is 
infinitesimal as compared
to using HTTP;)

> 
> Ugo 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Champion, Mike [mailto:Mike.Champion@softwareag-usa.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:11 PM
> > To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> > Subject: MOM and reliable messaging article by Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-rmimp/
> > 
> > Implementation strategies for WS-ReliableMessaging
> > 
> > Christopher Ferris (chrisfer@us.ibm.com), IBM
> > John Ibbotson (john_ibbotson@uk.ibm.com), IBM
> > Tony Storey (tony_storey@uk.ibm.com), IBM
> > May 5, 2003
> > This paper discusses considerations for realizing robustness, 
> > integrity, and
> > performance required for reliable messaging implementations using the
> > recently released WS-ReliableMessaging specification and 
> > describes the role
> > of message oriented middleware to address these.
> > 
> > 
>