- From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:40:34 -0500
- To: "Mark Baker" <distobj@acm.org>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:22 AM
To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Re: Web Service Description and stateful services - (on the
'www-ws@w3.org' list) Debating on a) Stateful Web Service Instances b)
Stateful Interaction - OGSI
That sounds more like b) state; stateful interaction to me, Roger.
How about an example to explain the difference?
interface Lightbulb
{
getState();
setState();
}
This interface obviously deals in lightbulb state, which is what I
thought was meant by a) state. Each service instance contains
information which represents the state of the lightbulb.
But, the interactions with each lightbulb are state*less*, because each
message contains all the information necessary to process that message.
This would be an example of how to make that interface state*ful*;
interface Lightbulb2
{
getState();
setState();
login();
logout();
}
Now, a getState() message doesn't contain all the information necessary
to process the message, because some of that information is held by the
service itself; specifically, whether or not the user is logged in. In
order to make that interaction stateless again, the login info needs to
be in the message somewhere, ala;
getState( userid, password );
MB
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 08:54:07AM -0500, Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)
wrote:
>
> This is certainly a different conception of maintaining state than
> what I am familiar with. I think that the state maintenance I am
> familiar with does not refer to the lifetime of the entire service
> (like what geographic area a service supports), which I sort of
> thought would be part of the description of the service itself as
> opposed to anything about state. Instead I think of state as being a
> characteristic of a series of invocations of services that are linked
> together into one "transaction" (loosely interpreted -- I am not
> talking about rollbacks and stuff here). The state is then the
> collection of information that is necessary for a service somewhere in
> this chain to understand what the context of the invocation is.
>
> Does that make sense? Am I somehow out in the weeds on this?
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