- From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:20:15 -0800
- To: <edwink@collaxa.com>, "'Assaf Arkin'" <arkin@intalio.com>, "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>, "'Ugo Corda'" <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>, "'Champion, Mike'" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
- Cc: <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
> But there are a lot of cases where you want to change the > implementation > without changing the input and output data structures. In > those cases, I > believe that Web services designed as a resource with a generic > interface will be able to evolve with less impact, even more so if the > service is designed to work asynchronously. > Edwin, I completely agree with this point. But this is separate from what I was raising. Point #1 (my point): Changes to input/output data structures almost invariably change some portion of implementation software Point #2( your point): Changes to implementation don't necessarily affect input/output data structures. There are kind of 2 different definitions of loose coupling: 1) Changes to the interface do not affect software 2) Changes to the software do not necessarily affect the interface. I'm focusing on #1, not #2. > The point here is that forcing developers to break down services with > multiple methods into resources with unified interface will create > applications and systems that are easier to evolve and adapt. > I am happy > to demonstrate this point further will a real world use case if you > think that this assertion is far fetched. I also 100% agree with having "coarse-grained" or "document-oriented" web services. But I don't think this has much to do with loose coupling. It's much more to deal with performance/scalability/efficiency/latency. Changing the name structure in a PO versus changing the PO.setName() structure causes a software break no matter which way you build it. So Coarse-grained and loose coupling are separate things, imo. Hey, why don't we write a definition of loose-coupling and coarse-grained into our arch doc, and talk about the benefits from a "best practice" application thereof? I'm trying to figure out a way of making this affect the wsa arch documents. Cheers, Dave
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