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Re: Long owed Description stack words

From: Heather Kreger <kreger@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:57 -0400
To: "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF6A1D34FA.1C810958-ON87256C60.005A2753@us.ibm.com>

Thanks Jean-Jacques, your comments are exactly right.
I completely agree with Chris's reactions to your comments.

I stole these words from an existing paper and tried to scrub and update
some IBM-Blueness remains. And you are correct, they were written
with WSDL 1.1 in mind and need updating to WSDL 1.2.

Heather Kreger
Web Services Lead Architect
STSM, SWG Emerging Technology
919-543-3211 (t/l 441)  cell:919-496-9572

Christopher B Ferris
10/28/2002 07:26 AM

To:    "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>
cc:    Heather Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org>,
Subject:    Re: Long owed Description stack words  (Document link: Heather


Please see below.


Christopher Ferris
Architect, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
phone: +1 508 234 3624

Jean-Jacques Moreau wrote on 10/28/2002 05:16:43 AM:

> Heather, Chris,
> I have some comments on your recent addition to the Architecture
> document.

As always, thanks for the review:)

> Jean-Jacques.
> ================
> "(WSDL) is the de facto standard for XML based service description"
>    I find it somewhat troublesome that a W3C WG (WSA)
>    caracterizes what is now the work of another
>    W3C WG (WSD) as "de facto standard". I know this is
>    meant for WSDL 1.1, but I think we should also cater
>    for WSDL 1.2.


> "WSDL has been submitted to the W3C for standardization"
>    It's not just been submitted, it is being actively
>    worked on!
>    Suggestion: add: "and is being worked on by the
>    W3C Web Service Description WG."


> "however, the only currently described bindings are for SOAP 1.1,
>    Suggestion: change to: "WSDL 1.1 describes the following
>    bindings: SOAP 1.1, HTTP POST and MIME. WSDL 1.2 will also
>    describe a SOAP 1.2 binding."


> "Think of an operation like a method signature in a programming
> language."
>    The analogy is an over simplification and, IMO, leads the
>    reader to think just in terms of RPCs instead of
>    document-centric services.


> "WSDL:message element is used to define the input and output
> parameters of an operation."
>    Again, this is an RPC only description, IMO.

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