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RE: Un-fogging the Top cloud in triangle/rectangle diagram

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@ChevronTexaco.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:19:37 -0700
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E016245C4@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: "'David Booth'" <dbooth@w3.org>, "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org

Agree.  I also think that a discussion of "what to call the top box" is in
some senses a trivial discussion, but a that of "do we need the top box in
the most basic diagram" is not.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Booth [mailto:dbooth@w3.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:05 PM
To: Champion, Mike; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Re: Un-fogging the Top cloud in triangle/rectangle diagram


The discussion isn't about "what to call the top cloud", or "labeling the 
boxes".  The discussion is about whether a third party "Discovery Role" is 
needed AT ALL in the BASIC architecture, or "what boxes do we need".

I believe the BASIC architecture should only include architectural 
components that are clearly required for the vast majority of our 
anticipated applications.  Other components should go into an EXTENDED 

I and others have shown several very commonly expected scenarios where (I 
believe) a "Discovery Role" is clearly irrelevant because the Service 
Requester already knows what Service Provider it wants to talk to.  Hence 
the discussion.

At 11:48 AM 10/8/2002 -0400, Champion, Mike wrote:

>I'm lost!  Could someone summarize the viable options that seem to be 
>on the table, and let's have another email straw poll to get a sense of 
>who can live with which names/conceptual descriptions for the "top 
>As much as this fascinates us :-) there are probably 40 or so more 
>"boxes" we need to define in the WSA reference architecture, and at 2 
>weeks/box, we're going to exhaust a lot of people's patience :-)  At 
>this point I think its OK (if not really desireable) to label it "the 
>top cloud discovery / repository  role / service thing" and move on if 
>we can't come to consensus in a day or so.

David Booth
W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
Received on Tuesday, 8 October 2002 17:20:21 UTC

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