- From: David Orchard <david.orchard@bea.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:58:57 -0800
- To: "'Joseph Hui'" <jhui@digisle.net>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Joe, Do I understand correctly that you believe that the web services architecture should define something in the area of two phase commit for web services as a goal? Cheers, Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Joseph Hui > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:49 PM > To: www-ws-arch@w3.org > Subject: RE: D-AG006 Security > > > > -----Original Message----- > [snip] > > Or are you talking about the idea of "rolling > > back" a transaction if it fails ... > > This type of course -- one atomic operation, do all or > do none -- the type that generally employs 2-phase-commit > algorithms. > > Joe Hui > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service > ========================================= > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joseph Hui [mailto:jhui@digisle.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:14 PM > > To: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler); Krishna Sankar; www-ws-arch@w3.org > > Subject: RE: D-AG006 Security > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > [snip] > > > Could we possibly consider putting reliable messaging into > > > the security bucket? > > > > I don't think so. There's no security primitives that > > would fit the bill of reliable messaging (RM), which I sometimes > > characterize as "layer-7 TCP" where a session between two > > endpoints may span > > over several time-serialized connections, disconnections, > > reconnections. > > AG006 may include securing RM, but not RM per se. > > > > While at it, let me mention that if you want to include > > RM in WS-Arch, then you may as well not leave out transaction > > processing. > > > > [snip] > > > it is a natural > > > progression of thought: "I'm worried about who the author of > > > the message > > > is, whether it is distorted, and that IT ACTUALLY GETS THERE". > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There no > > security primitives that can guarantee data arrival. > > > > Joe Hui > > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service > > > > > > > >
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