- From: Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:51:06 +0100
- To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>, www-webont-wg@w3.org
Several points regarding your latest document(s). 1. I have been arguing for a long time that trying to resolve the layering problem (or any issue come to that) by inventing a new logic is not a sensible thing for a standardisation working group to do. And make no mistake, "Greater OWL" is a new logic about which, by Pat's own admission, we currently know very little. Peter has been doing a great job of pointing out just some of the immediately obvious pitfalls. Pat is apparently willing to wager a glass of scrumpy that he can fix (some of) the problems. Are we willing to bet the future of OWL against a glass of scrumpy? To borrow Jim Hendler's drug analogy, the drug we are being offered here has been knocked together in a few months, we know little about its possible effects (except by analogy with similar drugs), and it has never been subjected to clinical trials. I think that these facts would make a material difference to most people's decision as to whether or not they wanted to risk taking the drug. 2. It is disingenuous, or at least misguided, to denote the more restricted form of layering as "Fast OWL", to depict the restrictions as strange and unnecessary, and to imply that their only justification is to facilitate the use of some weird kind of reasoning system. In fact, "Fast OWL" could better be described as "First Order OWL": the restrictions are just those required to keep OWL within the standard first order framework, i.e., where classes directly correspond to formulae with one free variable, subsumption is implication, etc. Unlike "Greater OWL", the languages within this framework, up to and including standard FOL, have been extensively studied and are very well understood. Staying within this framework imbues OWL with a simple and very well understood semantics, and allows applications to use wide range of reasoning engines ranging from DLs through to full FOL systems. Moreover, it would facilitate the future extension of the language, i.e., to include the expressive power of full FOL. 3. If we really need a document describing how OWL can be embedded in RDF with semantic constraints such that OWL entailment and RDF entailment coincide, then I would like to draw the WGs attention back to Peter's proposal of Aug 28 last [1] that details a much simpler way to do this than "Greater OWL". Regards, Ian [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Sep/att-0136/01-part
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