- From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:54:20 -0500
- To: "Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: www-webont-wg@w3.org
>FYI > >this topic is also being aired in RDF Core where I produced the following >test case: > >1:[[ > >eg:prop rdfs:range eg:A . >eg:A rdfs:subClassOf eg:B . > >entails > >eg:prop rdfs:range eg:B . >]] > >(i.e. in english, >every object of a eg:prop is an eg:A. >every eg:A is an eg:B, >thus >every object of an eg:prop is an eg:B). Thats not a fair transcription. You can get to *that* conclusion without changing the definition of range, just by using subClass reasoning. Your English conclusion here is best expressed by saying eg:prop rdfs:range _:x . _:x rdfs:subClassOf eg:B . which of course does follow from your premis, by simple RDF generalization. Your conclusion would be a fair rendering of "every object of an eg:prop is an eg:B and vice versa" > >The current RDF MT says this does not hold. >Peter's OWL semantics says this does hold. Right, and I think the current RDF MT has it right. If we adopt the stronger version then we can't conjoin range constraints, for example, since eg:foo rdfs:range ex:A . eg:foo rdfs:range ex:B . would entail both ex:A rdfs:subClassOf ex:B . and ex:B rdfs:subClassOf ex:A . so that seems to me to be a non-starter. Pat >Jeremy > >Pat: >> Ah, it occurs to me that one of the bugs that Peter may have been >> referring to is my use of rdfs:range and rdfs:domain. Peter >> apparently believes that the RDFS semantics for these are wrong and >> need correcting. However, I disagree, and do not propose to alter >> them in the RDFS MT. If OWL needs to use different notions then OWL >> should introduce and use owl:domain and owl:range rather than use the >> RDFS vocabulary. I would however suggest that the adoption of a >> different mechanism at such a basic level might be a decision which >> should be examined very carefully, as it has many repercussions (eg >> for datatyping mechanisms). I havn't seen any good arguments for it, > > which is why I simply used the RDFS notions in the document. > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes
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