- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 08:01:44 +0200
- To: <www-webont-wg@w3.org>
Peter I am very sorry but I missed your earlier contentful message about these test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Aug/0226.html In light of that, I overreacted to your continued opposition to these test cases at the telecon, sorry. I reply to that message here. >> DESCRIPTION >> >> If prop is an owl:FunctionalProperty, >> and a resource has prop arcs pointing to two >> different URIrefs, then those two URIrefs denote the >> same resource, and hence each have the same properties. Peter: >This description mixes syntax and semantics, and thus need to be rewritten. In defence of the comment, I don't think the mixing introduces difficulties of understanding; but I agree with you on stylistic grounds. It would have been helpful if you had suggested alternative text. How about: [[ If prop is an owl:FunctionalProperty, then any resource has at most one prop value. Thus if a single URIref is described with two different prop arcs with objects which have two different URIrefs, then those two URIrefs denote the same resource; and hence each have the same properties. ]] It's longer, is the extra length necessary? Is it clearer? >This test is actually a test of two things: >1/ Functional properties are partial functional. >2/ If two different URIrefs denote the same object, then statements that > have the first as a subject can also be written using the other. Yes. I did not want to use sameZZZAs in the conclusions, so that syntactically I was testing just one aspect of owl. But you are right to point out that then semantically I am testing two aspects. (One aspect of owl, your point 1; one aspect of RDF, your point 2). I think this is correct design, in that at least some of our readers and implementors understand RDF; hence this test is only testing point (1) and RDF. >RATIONALE > > This is one of the basic tests of the entailments related to the various > different kinds of OWL properties. Thanks. I think this is the intended rationale for half the tests, and the other intended rationale is "This test illustrates the resolution for issue ZZZ". As such I think those two rationales are largely redundant. (Although we need to clearly present which tests relate to which features and which tests relate to which issues). I think we should take these two rationales as read, and only include a rationale for some other sort of test. >I would actually prefer that RDF/XML not be used at all in the >documents used to define tests, on the grounds that RDF/XML is too >difficult to read. While I have sympathy I am not sure where to go with this. I think the most readable syntax is N-triple with QNames. (N-triple being too verbose). We could choose to present our tests in such a syntax, but that then gives us issues about where the syntax is presented, define etc. N3 is, IMO, unusable for a spec because there is no well-defined standard stable definition. Your final point, except for the repeats arising from the repeats in the test; is to do with xml:base. 1. I made a typo error in applying an earlier comment from Dan to the first test. It says: xml:base="http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/test002" It should have said: xml:base="http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/conclusions002" (Contrast with the third of the tests which mirrors the first) My intent is that the xml:base declarations are redundant if you download the tests from their intended URL. The motivation is so that if the test is copied elsewhere, e.g. into an e-mail message; or is downloaded from a functional equivalent but syntactically identical URI such as one starting with HTTP, the test is unchanged. Actually, for the resolution of the relative URI, the typo is not substantive. So I will describe that resolution with respect to the uncorrected test. rdf:about="premises002#object2" This is a relative URI, to resolve against the absolute base URI http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/test002 you find the "directory" by looking for / on the right, this is: http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/ then you concatenate to get the full URIref http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/premises002#object2 Jeremy
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