- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:43:48 -0600
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: www-webont-wg@w3.org
>As it has come up in the Semantic Web Coordination Group, it might be worth >spending a short while discussing point nine of XML in 10 points. As you >might expect I have strong reservations about the claims therein concerning >RDF. Me too. We really ought to put a stern stop to this kind of thing, as publicly as possible; it is simply irresponsible to make claims like this. Who wrote this rubbish? >peter > > > > >Please review item #9 in the XML in 10 points: >[[ >XML is the basis for RDF Wrong. XML is not the 'basis' for RDF. It provides one notation, but it is not either basic, or best, or most acceptable. >and the Semantic Web > >XML provides an unambiguous syntax for W3C's RDF, the language >A language, not the language >for >expressing metadata (in fact, for knowledge in general That is nonsensical, or at best seriously misleading. >). RDF is like >hypertext elevated to the next level. Whereas hypertext links pieces >of text and leaves their relation vague, RDF can link anything and >everything Again, obvious nonsense. It confuses 'link' in some textual sense with 'refer to'. But to say that a language can refer to anything and everything is vacuous. Grafitti on a subway wall can refer to anything and everything. >and assigns names to the relations: 'A is the price of B' >can be a relation between an object and a sum of money; 'A is >heavier than B' can be the relation between two sumo wrestlers; 'A >is the cause of B' can be the relation between a shower and your >being wet. To communicate knowledge, whether in XML/RDF or in plain >English, both people and machines need to agree on what words to >use. That claim could be argued for, but it suggests a sad depth of incomprehension about the nature (and difficulties) of knowledge representation. >A precisely defined set of words to describe a certain area of >life (from 'shopping' to 'mathematical logic') is called an >'ontology.' Wrong, if the writer means 'words' in the sense I suspect he does. > RDF, ontologies, and the representation of meaning so >that computers can help people do work are all topics of the >Semantic Web Activity. This somehow leaves a confused (and false) impression of something new and magical emerging from the semantic web activity, and an even more confused and false implication that it has anything much to do with XML. Pat Hayes -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes
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