Re: ALL: Thoughts and thanks as the VBWG comes to a close REUNION?

Yes, I agree with both of these suggestions as well.  Even if the www-voice list remains only as a forward to a generic W3C list, it would be good for the alias to remain if possible.

And an alumni list sounds fun :)

-- dan

On Sep 29, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Michael Bodell wrote:

> It would be good to keep the public list up too, since people ask questions about recommendations on the list from time to time.  The recommendations say things like: “Comments for this specification are welcomed to www-voice@w3.org (archives).”
>  
> From: Kazuyuki Ashimura [mailto:ashimura@w3.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM
> To: Jim Larson
> Cc: Deborah Dahl; Jim Barnett; James Larson; w3c-voice-wg@w3.org; Voice Public List
> Subject: Re: ALL: Thoughts and thanks as the VBWG comes to a close REUNION?
>  
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Jim Larson <jim42@larson-tech.com> wrote:
> Kazuyuki,
> 
> I think this is a great idea, would you be willing to build a public mailing list?
>  
> Please let me check within the Team.
>  
> Kazuyuki
>  
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Jim
> 
> 
> On 9/28/2015 9:17 PM, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
> Hi Dan, Jim Larson, Jim Barnett, Debbie and all,
>  
> I really appreciate all the great contribution made by the group
> to the standardization of voice technologies, and am proud that
> I could be a part of the work.
>  
> By the way, as you know, the group is closing, and that means
> the VBWG mailing lists (both the Member list and the public list)
> will be also closed.
>  
> So I think maybe it would make sense to have another ML for
> the VBWG alumni to continue some more discussion, e.g, on
> the possible reunion at SpeechTEK.
>  
> What d you think?
>  
> Maybe the ML could be a public one.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Kazuyuki
>  
>  
>  
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Deborah Dahl <dahl@conversational-technologies.com> wrote:
> Dear Dan,
> Thank you for your note and the summary of the VBWG's history and
> specifications. The list of specifications that the group published is
> indeed impressive, but it's even more impressive when you know, as the VBWG
> members well know, how each feature of each specification was thought
> through, debated, revised, wordsmithed, and tested before it became part of
> the standard. The specifications look on the surface like a dry list of
> MUST's and SHOULD's but that appearance doesn't do justice to the long
> discussions and late nights in far-flung places that led to their creation.
> All of this hard work and care resulted in an incredible suite of standards
> that laid the foundation for a whole industry. I only wish Scott were still
> with us today to share these final thoughts.
> Jim, that's a wonderful idea to get together at SpeechTEK. I would love to
> do that.
> best,
> Debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Larson [mailto:jim42@larson-tech.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:24 AM
> To: Dan Burnett; w3c-voice-wg@w3.org (group); Voice Public List
> Subject: Re: ALL: Thoughts and thanks as the VBWG comes to a close REUNION?
> 
> Thanks so much for participating in one of the most successful W3C working
> groups.  We achieved much, had meetings at interesting places, and had great
> times.  Thank you.
> 
> Let me know if you would like to get together for a WBWG reunion at
> SpeechTEK, May 23-25 in Washington DC, by indicating your availability at
> one or more of these dates/times:
> 
> Sunday evening May 22
> Monday lunch May 23
> Monday evening May 23
> Tuesday lunch May 24
> Tuesday evening May 24
> Wednesday lunch May 25
> Wednesday evening May 25
> 
> -Jim
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/26/2015 8:26 AM, Dan Burnett wrote:
> > To all of you who have helped in the Voice Browser Working Group over
> > the years,
> >
> >
> > The Voice Browser Working Group will be closing shortly, but before it
> does, it is appropriate to say a few words about the history and
> accomplishments of the WG.
> >
> > The Voice Browser Working Group has been one of the longest-running and
> most successful working groups at W3C, both in terms of its list of
> specifications and its whole-hearted adoption by its target industry.
> >
> > Under the leadership of Jim Larson, the group started in 1999 with a goal
> of taking the VoiceXML 1.0 specification created by IBM, Motorola, AT&T, and
> Lucent and turning it into a world-wide standard for call center Interactive
> Voice Response (IVR) application development.  At the time, nearly all such
> development was done using proprietary software running on custom hardware
> systems that lived in phone company Central Office buildings.  Application
> development took many months, and new features often took years to make
> their way onto the hardware platforms.  Additionally, Automatic Speech
> Recognition (ASR, or Voice Recognition) technology suffered from a lack of
> adopted standards, even though many of the APIs were similar at their core
> due to agreements in the research community.  This made it difficult for
> competition in the ASR space to flourish since each ASR engine had a custom
> API that IVR application developers had to use.  Meanwhile, the HTML
> revolution had already resulted in web-based customer self-care, so
> enterprises already had a direct line between their customers and their back
> end systems.
> > Enter VoiceXML.  Extending XML in the way W3C, at the time, was extending
> HTML, via XML elements with associated rendering semantics, VoiceXML created
> a uniform language for IVR development that allowed enterprises to use the
> web model of resource naming, caching, and fetching for easy integration
> with their existing back-end systems.  Simultaneously, it created a uniform
> way to use ASR engines, with a common lexical grammar language (SRGS), a
> common semantic processor language (SISR), a common speech synthesis
> language (SSML), a common lexicon format (PLS), and the amazing innovation
> of a confidence threshold value constrained to range from 0 to 100,
> something considered almost impossible at the time.
> > Most importantly, VoiceXML introduced the web model to the automated call
> center environment, along with its associated reductions in development cost
> and time and deployment cost and time. Within a few short years
> VoiceXML-based systems dominated the IVR industry, replacing all existing
> custom hardware systems on the market with racks of general compute servers
> as we know them today.
> > VoiceXML has been an unqualified success that has directly led to
> continued innovations such as those from the cloud IVR industry of Twilio,
> Tropo, and others.
> >
> > During its lifetime the Voice Browser produced the following
> specifications:
> >
> > Recommendations:
> > ----------------
> > 2015-09-01
> > State Chart XML (SCXML): State Machine Notation for Control
> > Abstraction http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/
> >
> > 2011-07-05
> > Voice Browser Call Control: CCXML Version 1.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/ccxml/
> >
> > 2010-09-07
> > Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML) Version 1.1
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-synthesis11/
> >
> > 2008-10-14
> > Pronunciation Lexicon Specification (PLS) Version 1.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-lexicon/
> >
> > 2007-06-19
> > Voice Extensible Markup Language (VoiceXML) 2.1
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/voicexml21/
> >
> > 2007-04-05
> > Semantic Interpretation for Speech Recognition (SISR) Version 1.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/semantic-interpretation/
> >
> > 2004-09-07
> > Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML) Version 1.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-synthesis
> >
> > 2004-03-16
> > Speech Recognition Grammar Specification Version 1.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar
> >
> > 2004-03-16
> > Voice Extensible Markup Language (VoiceXML) Version 2.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/voicexml20
> >
> > Group Notes:
> > ------------
> > 2015-08-11
> > DOM Event I/O Processor for SCXML
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml-dom-iop/
> >
> > 2015-08-11
> > XPath Data Model for SCXML
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml-xpath-dm/
> >
> > 2009-12-08
> > Mobile Web for Social Development Roadmap
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/mw4d-roadmap/
> >
> > 2005-05-26
> > SSML 1.0 say-as attribute values
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/ssml-sayas
> >
> > 1998-01-28
> > Voice Browsers
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-voice
> >
> >
> > Working Drafts:
> > -------------
> > 2010-12-16
> > Voice Extensible Markup Language (VoiceXML) 3.0
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/voicexml30/
> >
> >
> > I would personally like to thank all the members of the Voice Browser
> > Working Group over the years, with special mention to
> > - Jim Barnett and his team for helping us finish SCXML, our final
> > Recommendation,
> > - Kaz Ashimura for his years of dedicated work as our Team Contact,
> > and
> > - Jim Larson and our recently departed friend, Scott McGlashan, for their
> outstanding vision and leadership.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > Dan Burnett
> > Chair, Voice Browser Working Group
> >
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