- From: Pawson, David <David.Pawson@rnib.org.uk>
- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:54:23 +0100
- To: <www-voice@w3.org>
-----Original Message-----
From: Eira Monstad
The intention of the working group who wrote the say-as
note, according to
the paragraph from the note I quoted in my message.
> I always thought ISO was international?
It is international in its way, but its intended use is
different. ISO
8601 is meant to be used for reliable data interchange, not
to handle
common usecases in texts intended for humans. The working
group has
apparently acknowledged this problem, since they have
stated clearly in
the say-as note that the time format is *not* intended to
be iso 8601
compliant.
And hence different from all other XML based date times?
All I ask for is that the hour 24 is allowed, so
that more
Norwegian/Danish texts are covered, just like they allow
non-iso 8601
am/pm time formats to cover more English texts.
And when another nation asks for their favourite exception?
If the say-as time format were to be iso 8601 compliant, it
would be
unsuitable for a very large number of human-readable texts,
But could be reliably converted to whatever format, by a machine.
thereby
defying the purpose of the say-as element. The idea is to make the
contained text easy to understand for a machine even though
it was written
for a human.
With the Norwegian use case, or some other use case?
I agree that following iso 8601 is a very good idea if you
are in control
of the time string, but this is about recognizing time
strings that were
never intended to be machine readable in the first place.
How can you say that, when referring to authored content?
Well, the whole idea is that by marking up the text, you
won't have to
guess what it means...
Only if the markup is reliable. What format would you expect an
author in Taiwan to use? The Norwegian form? An East coast states
format etc etc. Reliable markup uses standards, not edge cases.
regards DaveP.
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