- From: Guillaume Berche <guillaume.berche@eloquant.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:12:00 +0200
- To: <www-voice@w3.org>
Hello, Following are some more comments on the VXML W3C Working Draft from 24 April 2002. I understand the time frame for comments ended May 24, 2002 but I though they might still be useful (at least to discuss with practitionners if they are not considered for the 2.0 official release). Concerning event catching algorithm: 1) Precise the execution of catch handlers in section "5.2.2 Catch" Section "5.2.2 Catch" seems to imply that handlers are called synchronously: "If a <catch> element contains a <throw> element with the same event, then there may be an infinite loop: <catch event="help"> <throw event="help"/> </catch>" Suggested text addition: "The FIA appendix C details the execution after a catch element is executed (in its definition of the "execute" term)" 2) Precise the definition of "execution" in the FIA appendix C to executables from handlers. Suggested text modification: "execute To execute executable content – either a block, a filled action, or a set of filled actions. If an event is thrown during execution, the execution of the executable content is aborted. The appropriate event handler is then executed, and this may cause control to resume in a form item, in the next iteration of the form’s main loop, or outside of the form. If a computed-directed transition element(such as <goto>, <link>, <return> or <submit>) is executed, the transition takes place immediately, and the remaining executable content is not executed. During the execution of the event handler, the same rule applies as for the execution of executable content described above (with respect to execution abortion and transition)." 3) Precise error handling during document initialization (e.g. in document-level <script> and <var> elements) Suggested modification: Move the modified following text from section "5.2.6 Event Types" to section "5.2.2 Catch" (or to a new section, as suggested in comment #4) "Errors encountered during document loading, including transport errors (no document found, HTTP status code 404, and so on) and syntactic errors (no <vxml> element, etc) result in a badfetch error event raised in the calling document, while errors after loading (including document initialization) (such as semantic errors during <script> and <var> initialization), are raised and handled in the document itself." I could not understand the rationale behind the following statement in section "5.2.6 Event Types", near to error.badfetch. "Whether or not variable initialization is considered part of executing the new document is platform-dependent." Can please someone explain why this behavior would be platform dependent? 4) Precise document initialization As described above in comment #3, some events are handled at document initialization. However, since elements are initialized in document order, events handlers may not yet be active at the time an event is thrown. Take for instance the usual case of a vxml document starting with a script element: no document handlers are yet initialized, and an error in the <script> element would not be handled by defined event handlers. Suggested modification: add a specific section concerning document initialization similar to the FIA which precise the order of element initializations "1.5.0 Document initialization Document initialization starts once the transport and XML schema validation has been performed. As described in section "5.2.2 Catch", errors occuring during this phase are raised and handled in the document itself. During handling of events, the variable scope chain may not be complete (there might be no chained dialog scope yet), but the _event shadown variable is still defined in an anonymous variable scope" Each element is initialized in document order including event handlers. Consequently, it is advised to define document-level handlers first in the document. ... Once all elements are initialized, the document execution begins. As described in section "1.5.1 Execution within One Document", document execution begins at the first dialog by default. " 5) Refine anonymous variable scope during event handling Section "5.2.2 Catch" states that "The catch element's anonymous variable scope includes the special variable _event which contains the name of the event that was thrown." To me, this implies that the handler is invoked when the FIA is currently running (that is a form and a form item are active). However, this might not be the case for events handled during document initialization. Consequently, the variable scope chain as described in section "5.1.2 Variable Scopes" would not work, in particular there would no chained dialog scope. Suggested modification is included in comment #4 Other feedback 6) Precise that a <field> item without implicit nor explicit grammar should throw an error.semantic event. See if it is possible to refine the schema to enforce this. Alternative suggested text modification to the end of section "2.3.1 FIELD" "[...] The use of <option> does not preclude the simultaneous use of <grammar>. The result would be the match from either 'grammar', not unlike the occurence of two <grammar> elements in the same <field> representing a disjunction of choices. However, a field item without implicit nor explicit grammar would result in an error.semantic event to be thrown at document initialization time". I hope this can help. Any comment on this is welcome. Best regards, ------------------------------------------ Guillaume Berche Eloquant, ZA Le malvaisin 38240 Le Versoud, France guillaume.berche@eloquant.com +33 04 76 77 46 92 ------------------------------------------
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