- From: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:38:00 +0200
- To: www-validator@w3.org
Sierk Bornemann wrote: > If you as a website owner hide this need from them and delay > such a confrontation, then you participate on a delay at all > concerning the brackthrough of modern webstandards at all. Yes, not involving visitors of my pages in any "confrontation" is precisely what I want, using a very simple test: If it did not work for Netscape 2.02, my favourite browser about a year ago, or if it did not work with Lynx, I didn't use it... YMMV >> FWIW IE6 has no problem with the XHTML 1.0 transitional pages > But serving/using a transitional DTD markup grammar into an > endless future, is not that, what is intended by our standards > and progress of the WWW. DTDs are good enough to express the overall structure of simple XML document formats, and the folks pushing for wannabe-better schema notations are typically unable to get STD 66 URIs right, which would be a worthwhile goal from my POV. Again YMMV, but I'm pretty sure that visitors of my pages don't care about my preferences wrt schema notations for the purpose of validation. > BTW, even XHTML 1.0 Strict allows to serve it as "text/html" > instead of the recommended "application/xhtml+xml". You are > not forced to use the Transitional DTD to reach the IE. But I don't care about IE as long as it can display my pages, that was the point I tried to make. I need align= and valign= and a few other legacy tricks for browsers not supporting CSS, the "strict" dialects don't have these attributes. And the W3C failed to create a sensible 1.1 transitional for my goal: "Visible with *any* browser" - excluding some hopeless cases, e.g., when old browsers don't send a HTTP Host: header field. It's perfectly fine if you have other goals, go for it. On my box I'm unable to test IE8 or install IE7, I don't try to defend IEx or FFy, but I care about users forced to use older browsers. Maybe in about ten years we can forget IE6 and FF2. Frank
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