Re: Validation of apostrophe

Yes thanks, as it's a short test uploading first is not an option (but they do do this with all other work). And yes they do
(should) add the <meta> tags for character encoding.

Thanks
Richard

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>>> On 16/02/2007 at 13:25, in message
<Pine.GSO.4.64.0702161517340.9404@mustatilhi.cs.tut.fi>, "Jukka K. Korpela"
<jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, richard Eskins wrote:
> 
>> As you saw (I will be removing the file validated), this was a student 
>> exercise in which they create a page in a lab based test.
>> The final step is to validate the page. I'll just have to stress next 
>> year that this must be done via Upload, not the Direct Input.
> 
> I was first a bit worried about upload, too, since in practice browsers do 
> not include character encoding information in the submitted form data. 
> After all, they really cannot. They usually deal with files in 
> environments where no encoding information is attached at the file system 
> level.
> 
> However, the W3C validator seems to honor the encoding declared in a 
> <meta> tag and will correctly report e.g. octet 146 decimal as error when 
> the encoding is declared as iso-8859-1 and approve it when the encoding is 
> windows-1252.
> 
> On the other hand, the validator uses UTF-8 as the default encoding, which 
> is most a wrong guess at present. For documents containing ASCII only, 
> this is not a problem, but the warning probably confuses the user. And if 
> there are non-ASCII character, there can be quite some confusion.
> 
> Thus, if you ask students to use the file upload feature, you should tell 
> them that <meta> tags for character encoding are needed because
> a) that's the Right Thing in situations where message headers (such as 
> HTTP headers) cannot be used
> b) that'll avoid getting confusing messages due to the default applied.
> 
> Ideally, files should be uploaded on a server and validated using the 
> validator's primary interface, via a URL.

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