Frustration (so I tested the validation page itself)

W3C HTML Validation Service ResultsGidday 
Thanks for the site and the useful service. This is the first time I have attempted to have a page validated.
I was having trouble figuring out how to put in the encoding so I veiwed the source of the Validation page thinking "I can copy from here". There wasn't any example so I sent your page and found No Character Encoding detected.  I have to ask how come? Are you not supposed to be setting an example to us?
Please, please, fix it.
regards
max
 HTML Validation Service Results
      File:  C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\m\Desktop\test.html 
      Detected Character Encoding:  unknown 
      Select Character Encoding:   (detect automatically)utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)iso-8859-1 (Western Europe)iso-8859-2 (Central Europe)iso-8859-3 (Maltese)iso-8859-4 (Baltic Rim)iso-8859-5 (Cyrillic)iso-8859-6-i (Arabic)iso-8859-7 (Greek)iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew)iso-8859-9 (Turkish)iso-8859-10 (Latin 6)iso-8859-13 (Latin 7)iso-8859-14 (Celtic)iso-8859-15 (Latin 9)us-ascii (basic English)euc-jp (Japanese, Unix)shift_jis (Japanese, Win/Mac)iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email)euc-kr (Korean)gb2312 (Chinese, simplified)big5 (Chinese, traditional)tis-620 (Thai)koi8-r (Russian)koi8-u (Ukrainian)macintosh (MacRoman)windows-1250 (Central Europe)windows-1251 (Cyrillic)windows-1252 (Western Europe)windows-1253 (Greek)windows-1254 (Turkish)windows-1255 (Hebrew)windows-1256 (Arabic)windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)  
      Current Doctype:  HTML 4.01 Transitional 
      Select Doctype:   (detect automatically)XHTML 1.0 StrictXHTML 1.0 TransitionalXHTML 1.0 FramesetHTML 4.01 StrictHTML 4.01 TransitionalHTML 4.01 FramesetHTML 3.2HTML 2.0  
      Options:  Show Source Outline Parse Tree ...no attributes  
       

Warnings
  a.. Warning: No Character Encoding detected! To assure correct validation, processing, and display, it is important that the character encoding is properly labeled. Further explanations. 
Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser. 

  a.. Line 74, column 6: 
    </ul>
        ^
  Error: end tag for element "UL" which is not open; try removing the end tag or check for improper nesting of elements 


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Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML 4.01 Transitional.

If you use CSS in your document, you should also check it for validity using the W3C CSS Validation Service. 


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Source Listing
Below is the source input I used for this validation:

   1: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
   2: <html>
   3:   <head>
   4:     <title>W3C HTML Validation Service Results</title>
   5:     <link rev="made" href="mailto:gerald@w3.org">
   6:     <link rel="stylesheet" href="/results.css" media="screen">
   7:   </head>
   8: 
   9:   <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" link="#0000ee" vlink="#551a8b">
  10:     <h1 class="title"><a href="http://www.w3.org/"><img
  11:        src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/WWW/w3c_home"
  12:        width=72 height=48 border="0" alt="W3C"></a>
  13:       <a href="/">HTML Validation Service</a> Results</h1>
  14:     
  15:   <form method='get' action='/check'><table class='header'>
  16:     <tr>
  17:       <th>File: </th>
  18:       <td>D:\Max\_current works\nma website\New site\Contact.html</td>
  19:     </tr>
  20:     <tr>
  21:       <th>Detected Character Encoding: </th>
  22:       <td><code>us-asci</code></td>
  23:     </tr>
  24:     <tr>
  25:       <th>Select Character Encoding: </th>
  26:       <td><SELECT NAME="charset">
  27: <OPTION  VALUE="(detect automatically)">(detect automatically)
  28: <OPTION  VALUE="utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)">utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)
  29: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-1 (Western Europe)">iso-8859-1 (Western Europe)
  30: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-2 (Central Europe)">iso-8859-2 (Central Europe)
  31: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-3 (Maltese)">iso-8859-3 (Maltese)
  32: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-4 (Baltic Rim)">iso-8859-4 (Baltic Rim)
  33: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-5 (Cyrillic)">iso-8859-5 (Cyrillic)
  34: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-6-i (Arabic)">iso-8859-6-i (Arabic)
  35: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-7 (Greek)">iso-8859-7 (Greek)
  36: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew)">iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew)
  37: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-9 (Turkish)">iso-8859-9 (Turkish)
  38: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-10 (Latin 6)">iso-8859-10 (Latin 6)
  39: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-13 (Latin 7)">iso-8859-13 (Latin 7)
  40: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-14 (Celtic)">iso-8859-14 (Celtic)
  41: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-8859-15 (Latin 9)">iso-8859-15 (Latin 9)
  42: <OPTION  VALUE="us-ascii (basic English)">us-ascii (basic English)
  43: <OPTION  VALUE="euc-jp (Japanese, Unix)">euc-jp (Japanese, Unix)
  44: <OPTION  VALUE="shift_jis (Japanese, Win/Mac)">shift_jis (Japanese, Win/Mac)
  45: <OPTION  VALUE="iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email)">iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email)
  46: <OPTION  VALUE="euc-kr (Korean)">euc-kr (Korean)
  47: <OPTION  VALUE="gb2312 (Chinese, simplified)">gb2312 (Chinese, simplified)
  48: <OPTION  VALUE="big5 (Chinese, traditional)">big5 (Chinese, traditional)
  49: <OPTION  VALUE="tis-620 (Thai)">tis-620 (Thai)
  50: <OPTION  VALUE="koi8-r (Russian)">koi8-r (Russian)
  51: <OPTION  VALUE="koi8-u (Ukrainian)">koi8-u (Ukrainian)
  52: <OPTION  VALUE="macintosh (MacRoman)">macintosh (MacRoman)
  53: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1250 (Central Europe)">windows-1250 (Central Europe)
  54: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1251 (Cyrillic)">windows-1251 (Cyrillic)
  55: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1252 (Western Europe)">windows-1252 (Western Europe)
  56: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1253 (Greek)">windows-1253 (Greek)
  57: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1254 (Turkish)">windows-1254 (Turkish)
  58: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1255 (Hebrew)">windows-1255 (Hebrew)
  59: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1256 (Arabic)">windows-1256 (Arabic)
  60: <OPTION  VALUE="windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)">windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)
  61: </SELECT>
  62: </td>
  63:     </tr>
  64:     <tr>
  65:       <th>Options: </th>
  66:       <td>         <input type="checkbox" value="" name="ss" />Show Source
  67:          <input type="checkbox" value="" name="outline" />Outline
  68:          <input type="checkbox" value="" name="sp" />Parse Tree
  69:          <input type="checkbox" value="" name="noatt" />...no attributes
  70: </td>
  71:     </tr>
  72:     <tr><th><input type='submit' value='Revalidate' /></th><td>&nbsp;</td>
  73:   </table></form>
  74:   </ul>
  75:   <p>Sorry!
  76:     A fatal error occurred when attempting to transcode the character encoding
  77:     of the document. Either we do not support this character encoding yet, or you 
  78:     have specified a non-existent character encoding (often a misspelling).
  79:   </p>
  80:   <p>The detected character encoding was "us-asci".</p>
  81:   <p>The error was "".</p>
  82:   <p>
  83:     If you believe the character encoding to be valid you can submit a request for
  84:     that character encoding (see the <a href="/feedback.html">feedback page</a>
  85:     for details) and we will look into supporting it in the future.
  86:   </p>
  87: <address>
  88:   <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img
  89:      src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" height="31" width="88"
  90:      align=right border="0" alt="Valid HTML 4.01!"></a>
  91:   <a href="/feedback.html">Gerald Oskoboiny</a><br>
  92:   Last modified: Date: 2001/09/14 04:13:13 
  93: </address>
  94: 
  95: </body>
  96: 
  97: </html>
    
 Gerald Oskoboiny
Last modified: Date: 2001/09/14 04:13:13 

Received on Thursday, 18 April 2002 14:02:12 UTC