- From: Ken Scott <kenscott@stanford.edu>
- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:17:10 -0800
- To: "BIZLAW" <bizlaw@list.law.umaryland.edu>
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I agree with Bill. Operationally, if the self-dealing contract is "fair" (that is, within the contract range in an Edgeworth box), that should satisfy the legal standard. Courts have a difficult enough job assessing fairness in a single transaction. Institutionally, how could they possibly examine every other potential transaction in a firm's opportunity set to determine that none was more favorable? Such a requirement would have the perverse result of rendering effective judicial review near-impossible. At 09:39 AM 3/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: >If you can't borrow, you can seek new equity financing to exploit the >new opportunity. My reaction is that courts won't look beyond a range >of fairness, and market value is certainly in that range. We don't >expect courts using the business judgment rule to examine the IRR for >competing projects. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Daniel Posin [mailto:dposin@law.tulane.edu] >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:52 PM >To: BIZLAW >Subject: RE: fiduciary duty, entire fairness and opportunity cost > >I don't know about that. You can't always borrow what you want (unless >you're Enron at its height). > > Daniel Q Posin > Judge René H. Himel Professor of Law > Tulane Law School > 6329 Freret Street > New Orleans, LA 70118 > 504-865-5982 (O) > 504-862-8846 (F) > dposin@law.tulane.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Letsou [mailto:pletsou@willamette.edu] >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:51 PM >To: BIZLAW >Subject: Re: fiduciary duty, entire fairness and opportunity cost > > >It could certainly be the case that the firm is presented with two >investment opportunities, one that has a positive net present value and >another (the conflict of interest transaction) that has a zero net >present value. Taking the positive net present value opportunity would >certainly seem to be the correct choice if the firm had to choose. But >why should the firm have to choose? If the foregone (unconflicted) >opportunity really has a positive net present value, then the firm >should be able to find financing to take advantage of that opportunity >as well. If this is correct, then the availability of the second >opportunity should have no bearing on the "entire fairness" of the >first. > >Peter Letsou > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Posin" <dposin@law.tulane.edu> >To: "BIZLAW" <bizlaw@list.law.umaryland.edu> >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:10 PM >Subject: RE: fiduciary duty, entire fairness and opportunity cost > > >Yeah, I'm having trouble putting the idea that the transaction was the >arm's length fair price together with the idea that there was a superior >opportunity available for limited corporate funds. Of course maybe the >alternative was something of unusual value uniquely (and briefly) >available to the company, for one reason or another. I'd like to see >Vice Chancellor Strine tee off on that one. > >Daniel Q Posin >Judge René H. Himel Professor of Law >Tulane Law School >6329 Freret Street >New Orleans, LA 70118 >504-865-5982 (O) >504-862-8846 (F) >dposin@law.tulane.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Beveridge, Norwood [mailto:paladin@okcu.edu] >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:32 PM >To: BIZLAW >Subject: RE: fiduciary duty, entire fairness and opportunity cost > > >I assume that the opportunity is one that the company can use. Also, >that it has funds available. If the company has limited funds and other >more attractive investment opportunities (from an ROI or other point of >view), that should be considered in my opinion, although I don't recall >seeing this discussed. Seems to me this is comprehended in the concept >of arms' length transaction. > >Norwood P. Beveridge > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Matheson [mailto:mathe001@tc.umn.edu] >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:23 PM >To: BIZLAW >Subject: Re: fiduciary duty, entire fairness and opportunity cost > > >Dan--Courts (that is, judges) generally aren't that sophisiticated. >Indeed, I truly believe that only academics would even ask the question. >If the decision is within the range of reasonableness, in the sense that >the deal could be justified on an arm-length basis, a Delaware court >would not second guess it---and I would hope that a Minnesota court >would not either. Good to hear from you. John > >On 11 Mar 2004, at 14:04, Kleinberger, Daniel wrote: > > > I'm looking for guidance on the following question. > > > > Assume that under applicable law managers defending a conflict of > > interest transaction have the burden of proving the "entire fairness" > > of the challenged transaction. Clearly, if the transaction was > > worthless to the entity, the analysis is simple. Likewise, if the > > transaction was of value to the entity but the price was above the > > price that would have been set through arm's length bargaining, the > > transaction was not fair. Assume, however, that the price was the > > arm's length price. Does the entire fairness analysis have to consider > > > the opportunity cost of the decision to invest entity funds in that > > transaction rather than some other transaction? > > > > Thanks. > > > > (This question has also been posted to the LNET-LLC list serv. Sorry > > for the duplication for those who are subscribed both to this list and > > that.) > > > > Daniel Kleinberger > > > > Professor Daniel S. Kleinberger > > William Mitchell College of Law > > 875 Summit Avenue > > St. Paul, MN 55105 > > voice: 651/290-6387 > > fax: 651/290-6414 > > dkleinberger@wmitchell.edu > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > This email has been scanned for all viruses. > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to bizlaw as: mathe001@tc.umn.edu To > > unsubscribe send a blank email to > > leave-bizlaw-24436J@list.law.umaryland.edu > > > > >John H. Matheson >Melvin C. 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