Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:46:28 +0100 From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@www3.cern.ch> Message-Id: <9212151146.AA00506@www3.cern.ch> To: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen) Subject: Re: two ideas.... Cc: www-talk@nxoc01.cern.ch > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 11:32:40 -0800 > From: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen) > [...] > > The commonality here is that some documents should only appear in > dialog boxes (when the browser supports it) as opposed to appearing > and being dealt with as full-fledged regular documents. The NeXTStep browser gets a similar look progressively, by resizing the window to exactly surround the document if it will fit on a screen, and then by eliminating both the scroll bar and the "resive bar' (NeXTStep window decoration) if the document is also not editable. > The advantages in implementing this kind of thing are (1) WWW becomes > a little more like some other current systems (notably Intermedia, > with the effectively one-to-many links), boosting its ability to take > over the functions that other systems have provided up until now, and > (2) navigational disorientation is lessened when minor references > (e.g., to glossary entries or menus of anchors) are instantiated > onscreen as minor GUI elements. Another possibility is to allow for a 'collection" object which is separate from a document and more constrained, would have a simple on-screen representation, would map to gopher menus, newsgroups, lists, etc. > So how about allowing a tag (say, <transient>) to be included in the > header of an HTML document to specify this property? > > Marc I worry that you will find that there is a continuous gradient between the transient and the non-transient, with many stages in between. > ps Specifically for the glossary system, I'm thinking of having a > regular glossary document with all the entries in a list and then > having a special server shell script strip (say that three times fast) > out a given entry when it's needed, adding the <transient> flag while > constructing a document for the entry on the fly. > this is what Mike Sendall's STING gloassary is. (See link from CERN page). Tim