- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 15:40:48 +0100
- To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
- Cc: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Public TAG List <www-tag@w3.org>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, Osmar Olivo <oz@inrupt.com>, Amy Guy <rhiaro@w3.org>, Timea Turdean <timea.turdean@inrupt.com>, Daniel Appelquist <dan@torgo.com>, Chief of Staff TBL <cos@timbl.com>
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po 20. 3. 2023 v 18:52 odesílatel Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> napsal: > At one point back in mid-2020 I tried to look seriously at Solid and just > couldn't figure out "what is this and what does it do?" quickly enough, ran > out of patience, and turned my attention elsewhere. Are things better now? > I.e. is there a good intro that gets to the heart of the matter quickly? > Perhaps these slides from March 2023 https://www.w3.org/2023/Talks/0310-intro-solidos-tbl/intro-to-solidos.html > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:45 AM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> st 15. 3. 2023 v 4:32 odesílatel Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com> >> napsal: >> >>> It is in scope for TAG, the W3C and whatever. But the idea your version >>> is the one. If you want to keep the W3C relatively independent, that >>> doesn't work. If Microsoft and Apple have to drop their version of scripts, >>> so should you. >>> >> >> It's still about bringing the web to its full potential. Solid is a >> pretty good effort in that direction IMHO >> >> What does it do? >> >> - Adds a social element (started with FOAF) >> - Adds authentication >> - Adds persistent storage, towards a read write web >> - Adds human and machine readable data >> - Adds realtime updates >> - Friendly to humans and agents >> >> What are the limitations: >> >> - Still a bit buggy >> - Some UX issues >> - Largely (but not soley) based on turtle, which is a small part of the >> web >> - Not 100% backwards compatible e.g. requires conneg and few on the web >> do that >> - Steep learning curve for new developers >> - Lacks plain old JSON interop (personal observation) >> >> Not the only way of doing things, but definitely something interesting / >> creative / innovative. It also lends itself well to interoperability, >> together with future and past innovations. >> >> >>> >>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 at 15:18, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Solid is a growing protocol/movement, and the tech parts of it — the >>>> Solid Project — are basically a W3C Community group. >>>> >>>> Solid adds things which the web needed but hadn’t yet standardized, >>>> including global single sign-in, standard access control, and a fast API >>>> for data read-write between an app and a store (a Solid Pod). By making >>>> the API to the store universal, it means you don’t have to change the store >>>> when you make a new app, which completely changes the architecture and >>>> markets and business models which are possible. It also leaves individuals >>>> empowered rather than exploited. >>>> >>>> Would it be reasonable for the TAG to review the architecture at a high >>>> level, or review the protocol? It would be useful to get a knowledge of >>>> the Solid stack in neighboring parts of the technology. >>>> >>>> (A separate future question are the client-client interop specs which >>>> are needed for interop between apps, such as contacts, chat, etc.) >>>> >>>> See https://solidproject.org/. https://solidproject.org/TR is where >>>> the specs end up after their github-based proces. >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Tim BL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> >>> https://hyperdata.it <http://hyperdata.it/danja> >>> >>>
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