Re: W3C URN scheme 'root' doesn't exist?

On 6/23/14, 5:11 PM, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:

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>On Jun 23, 2014, at 16:10 , Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
>wrote:
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>> We would need to be consistent for all constants defined in the spec in
>>defining such a referencing scheme. Also, it has no impact on the
>>normative implementations of UAs. I would therefore suggest to add a
>>sentence like this to an introductory section with an explanation of how
>>to find the URLs for all defined constants, maybe with a kind value add
>>an example.
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>works for me!

It looks like this didn't make it into the recent HTML Recommendation.
Should a bug be submitted against HTML WG or HTML.next?

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>> Best Regards,
>> Silvia.
>> 
>> On 24 Jun 2014 07:21, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>> I would actually prefer that Œthe w3cı simply decide, I think.  Ideally
>>there is a sentence somewhere saying roughly
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>> ³The URI to identify an HTML[5] track Œkindı value, when used in other
>>contexts, is http://Š²
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>> As I say, DASH uses a Scheme (think, namespace) + Value pair.
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>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:08 , Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote:
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>> > On 23/06/2014 19:09 , David Singer wrote:
>> >> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:06 , Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> David Singer writes:
>> >>>> Since we want permanent labels, I fear that tying them to a
>> >>>> version of the spec and its anchors and/or sections, and
>> >>>> location, might be fragile.  And, as Robin points out, we donıt
>> >>>> need choice.
>> >>>
>> >>> The whole point of W3C's usage of undated URIs is so that the
>> >>> location _doesn't_ change.  As long as there is a W3C,
>> >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#attr-trace-kind-subtitles will
>> >>> resolve. That's as good a promise as you're going to get
>> >>> (persistence as commonly understood is a service-level guarantee,
>> >>> _not_ a property of names!).
>> >>
>> >> and when HTML5 moves to HTML6 or 7?  Is the name really specific to
>> >> this version of HTML?
>> >
>> > That's why I suggested using /html/ instead of /html5/ if you want
>>something that updates with versions. If you want something that's
>>guaranteed to be absolutely stable forever, use the dated version as
>>Henry suggests (or a namespace document).
>> >
>> >> what if some editor decides to change the name of the anchor
>> >> (consistently in the document), so now itıs
>> >>
>> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#attribute-trace-kind-subtitles
>> >>
>> >> is there really a guarantee of stability for anchor names?
>> >
>> > That's undocumented, so if you need it to resolve (I thought you just
>>needed names) then you shouldn't rely on it ‹ we've broken these several
>>times before. In practice we probably won't break this for /html5/; we
>>will almost certainly break them in some future version.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon
>> 
>> David Singer
>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>> 
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>David Singer
>Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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Received on Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:33:45 UTC