- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
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Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
25 Oct 2012
[2]Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
Attendees
Present
Tim Berners-Lee, Yves Lafon, Ashok Malhotra, Noah Mendelsohn,
Jeni Tennison, Henry S. Thompson
Regrets
Larry Masinter
Absent
Peter Linss, Jonathan Rees
Chair
Noah Mendelsohn
Scribe
Henry S. Thompson
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Convene/Admin
2. [6]TPAC
3. [7]Pending Review items
4. [8]Overdue Action items
5. [9]TPAC
* [10]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________________
Convene/Admin
NM: No call next week, 2012-10-01
... Next call will be 2012-10-08
AM: Regrets for 8 November
NM: RESOLUTION: approved
[11]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/10/18-minutes as minutes for
2012-10-18 call
... Can we publish 2012-10-07 f2f minutes?
YL: I think we should wait
HST: I agree -- JAR needs to update
NM: HST, please chase JAR
HST: will do
NM: Once that is done, I presume we can go ahead and publish
... Two new drafts are out?
YL: FragIDs is out, Pub and Link should go out today
NM: FragIDs is a Last Call
YL: Pub and Link will be Last Call as well
TPAC
NM: Product Page index and individual pages should be correct, so that
we can point to that/them at TPAC w/o embarrassment
AM: Waiting for P&L to be published, will do update then, pbly tomorrow
NM: Don't forget the index page
<JeniT> [12]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/
NM: Index should be consistent with page itself
JT: RB won't be updating the Privacy page. . .
AM: PL was going to look at it
NM: Can anyone to a quick fix on that?
JT: I'll do something when I do the FragIDs page
<noah> Discuss any preparation needed for TPAC
<noah> AB syncup?
<noah> Publishing and linking last call (next item)?
<noah> Election procedures
<noah> Other?
HST: I will check on persistence and URIs
NM: HST is taking the lead wrt presentation planning
HST: I have done nothing yet, because waiting for meeting on Monday
with LM, PL and AM
<noah> JT: Do you want 3 slides from me?
HST: We'll give you some input
HST: Yes, great, we may give you some "anticipatory feedback"
NM: There will be a lunch with the AB, people have signed up
AM: Anything specific you (NM) want brought up?
NM: No -- anyone else?
... Election procedures?
AM: Got the feeling that the AB don't want to talk about it much
NM: If we pushed hard, they might do something
NM: How hard should we push Single Transferable Vote
HST: Let's start by getting a sense of where a broader cross-section of
the AB is on this.
HST: Might be worth pursuing, depending on how others on the AB feel
who haven't spoken up yet.
NM: Anything to add to the agenda?
Pending Review items
[None]
NM: Once we move the two pubs out the door for real, we need to have
some other topics to get working on. . .
Overdue Action items
<noah> ACTION-617?
<trackbot> ACTION-617 -- Yves Lafon to work with Noah to take
[13]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060329/ off the Rec
track -- due 2012-10-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/617
YL: Hope to resolve after TPAC
<noah> ACTION-617 Due 2012-11-08
<trackbot> ACTION-617 Work with Noah to take
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060329/ off the Rec
track due date now 2012-11-08
YL: SotD review?
NM: Send it to everyone
<noah> ACTION-748?
<trackbot> ACTION-748 -- Ashok Malhotra to prepare draft of Publishing
and Linking by Oct 15 -- due 2012-10-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/748
<noah> close ACTION-748
<trackbot> ACTION-748 prepare draft of Publishing and Linking by Oct 15
closed
NM: Close this and replace with "respond to LC feedback"?
AM: Closing date?
YL: 2012-12-13
NM: So we'll try to have responses ready before the f2f
<noah> ACTION: Ashok to prepare response to last call feedback on
Publishing and Linking - Due 2013-01-07 [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/10/25-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-763 - prepare response to last call feedback
on Publishing and Linking [on Ashok Malhotra - due 2013-01-07].
AM: So we need to ask people to review this, specifically
... JAR and LM to make suggestions
NM: Need an action?
AM: Yes, OK
<noah> ACTION: Ashok to arrange for expert review of Publishing and
Linking last call draft - Due 2012-11-08 [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/10/25-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-764 - arrange for expert review of Publishing
and Linking last call draft [on Ashok Malhotra - due 2012-11-08].
<noah> ACTION-718?
<trackbot> ACTION-718 -- Ashok Malhotra to propose goals and success
critera for TAG work on architectural issues relating to storage sync,
linked data, etc. -- due 2012-10-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/718
<noah> ACTION-718 Due 2012-11-13
<trackbot> ACTION-718 Propose goals and success critera for TAG work on
architectural issues relating to storage sync, linked data, etc. due
date now 2012-11-13
<noah> ACTION-724?
<trackbot> ACTION-724 -- Henry Thompson to investigate possible TAG
efforts on URI scheme proliferation and extension points -- due
2012-10-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/724
<noah> ACTION-724?
<trackbot> ACTION-724 -- Henry Thompson to investigate possible TAG
efforts on URI scheme proliferation and extension points -- due
2012-10-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/724
HST: Talked last time
<noah> ACTION-724 Due 2012-11-06
<trackbot> ACTION-724 investigate possible TAG efforts on URI scheme
proliferation and extension points due date now 2012-11-06
<noah> ACTION-23?
<trackbot> ACTION-23 -- Henry Thompson to track progress of #int bug
1974 in the XML Schema namespace document in the XML Schema WG -- due
2012-10-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/23
<noah> That was opened 2007...at least we're persistent
HST: There's actually been recent discussion
<noah> ACTION-23 Due 2012-11-06
<trackbot> ACTION-23 track progress of #int bug 1974 in the XML Schema
namespace document in the XML Schema WG due date now 2012-11-06
<noah> ACTION-560?
<trackbot> ACTION-560 -- Henry Thompson to review HTML polyglot last
call -- due 2012-10-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/560
HST: I did my actions long ago, should have been pending. Sent personal
comments in. Some things got changed. Some got taken to XML Core and
some good things came of that.
HST: So, overtaken.
<noah> close ACTION-560
<trackbot> ACTION-560 Review HTML polyglot last call closed
<noah> ACTION-742?
<trackbot> ACTION-742 -- Henry Thompson to excavate a statement on the
TAG voting issue from email/minutes that we can consider as a basis for
email to the AB -- due 2012-10-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/742
<noah> close ACTION-742
<trackbot> ACTION-742 Excavate a statement on the TAG voting issue from
email/minutes that we can consider as a basis for email to the AB
closed
<noah> ACTION-672?
<trackbot> ACTION-672 -- Jeni Tennison to work with PLH to create
W3C-sponsored registry of HTML extensions, and get that referenced from
HTML media type registration, per
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2012Jan/0048.html --
due 2012-05-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/672
JT: Needs discussion -- I reached out to PLH and Mike Smith
... got no response
... There is the new Web Platform initiative, right?
YL: Not at w3.org, but like a Wiki, can be editted
<Yves> [27]http://www.webplatform.org/
JT: Does it have a list of all the HTML extensions under discussion
JT: Because if it does, all we have to do is include a pointer to that
page in the media type registration for text/html
HST: I'd be surprised if IETF would accept a media type registration
that pointed to a community-editable page
<noah> Jeni, regarding privacy update to product page, check out
ACTION-716 [28]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/716
<JeniT> ... it's not as simple as having a pointer to that page
JT: On the other hand, there is the pressure within IETF towards
lighter touch wrt registries
NM: Reviewed vs. unreviewed?
JT: There is IETF pressure to move toward more wiki-like registration
HST: I wasn't aware of a two-phase story
JT: More the idea that if you want to encourage people to register
things, a lighter-weight process is needed
JT: There will be some kind of status field . . .
NM: So something as important as, say, image/jpg, would have to be able
to move from just proposed to seriously endorsed
JT: Push it back
<noah> ACTION-672 Due 2012-11-06
<trackbot> ACTION-672 Work with PLH to create W3C-sponsored registry of
HTML extensions, and get that referenced from HTML media type
registration, per
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2012Jan/0048.html due
date now 2012-11-06
JT: Two/three weeks -- I can try to make some progress at TPAC
<noah> ACTION-741?
<trackbot> ACTION-741 -- Noah Mendelsohn to check with Norm Walsh on
closing out HTML/XML unification work -- due 2012-10-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/741
<noah> ACTION-741 Due 2012-11-06
<trackbot> ACTION-741 Check with Norm Walsh on closing out HTML/XML
unification work due date now 2012-11-06
<noah> ACTION-716?
<trackbot> ACTION-716 -- Noah Mendelsohn to update privacy product page
to indicate a) possible handoff to other group b) liaison with IAB &
IETF privacy interest group c) goal to initiate larger activity in
privacy - Due: 2012-07-31 -- due 2012-06-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/716
NM: JT, you had said you might update the PP index -- this action is
the relevant basis
JT: This looks like Privacy as a whole, not the 'old' API minimization
<noah> ACTION-762?
<trackbot> ACTION-762 -- Peter Linss to prepare for review a draft of a
TAG Note focusing on the minimization message in the privacy finding.
PL to check w/Robin and Dan first. -- due 2013-11-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/762
JT: That due date looks wrong
<noah> ACTION-762?
<trackbot> ACTION-762 -- Peter Linss to prepare for review a draft of a
TAG Note focusing on the minimization message in the privacy finding.
PL to check w/Robin and Dan first. -- due 2012-11-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/762
<noah> ACTION-716 Due 2013-01-06
<trackbot> ACTION-716 Update privacy product page to indicate a)
possible handoff to other group b) liaison with IAB & IETF privacy
interest group c) goal to initiate larger activity in privacy - Due:
2012-07-31 due date now 2013-01-06
<noah> action-760?
<trackbot> ACTION-760 -- Noah Mendelsohn to send Steve Zilles note
saying Henry, Larry, Peter, Ashok, Tim and Jeni (Wed) could meet with
AB -- due 2012-10-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/760
<noah> close ACTION-760
<trackbot> ACTION-760 Send Steve Zilles note saying Henry, Larry,
Peter, Ashok, Tim and Jeni (Wed) could meet with AB closed
<noah> ACTION-743?
<trackbot> ACTION-743 -- Noah Mendelsohn to schedule F2F discussion of
issues report to Jeff Jaffe, see ACTION-563 -- due 2012-10-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [35]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/743
NM: This needs to be retargetted at the Jan f2f
<noah> ACTION-743?
<trackbot> ACTION-743 -- Noah Mendelsohn to schedule F2F discussion of
issues report to Jeff Jaffe, see ACTION-563 -- due 2012-10-04 --
PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [36]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/743
<noah> ACTION-692?
<trackbot> ACTION-692 -- Noah Mendelsohn to consider JAR's april
request to discuss, for 10 mins, issues list at oct f2f -- due
2012-09-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [37]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/692
NM: I view the old traditional issues list as a historical record of
open issues of architectural significance
... whereas the product page records our current priorities
<noah> ACTION-692?
<trackbot> ACTION-692 -- Noah Mendelsohn to consider JAR's april
request to discuss, for 10 mins, issues list at oct f2f -- due
2012-09-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [38]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/692
NM: If they aren't converging, we have a potential problem
... So I will bring this back for consideration
TPAC
NM: I have reserved rooms for Monday morning and Friday afternoon
HST: I will be at WG meeting that morning (presume Monday). Peter too,
I suspect. Suggest we duck out of our WGs late morning ahead of lunch.
HST: Sounds like Ashok and Larry are not in WGs. Perhaps you should
meet up with Tim Monday morning?
TBL: There's WebID and RDF (scribe infers Tim wants to go to those)
TBL: Could do breakfast
AM: When is WebID
TBL: Mon/Tue
... Same time as RDF WG
... LDP is Thu/Fri
NM: OK?
HST: Catch as catch can
<timbl> Actually I am leaving Friday early afternoon: 3:30 pm
NM: Adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Ashok to arrange for expert review of Publishing and
Linking last call draft - Due 2012-11-08 [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/10/25-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Ashok to prepare response to last call feedback on
Publishing and Linking - Due 2013-01-07 [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/10/25-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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