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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:48:53 -0500
Message-ID: <50CB3C55.8040601@openlinksw.com>
To: www-tag@w3.org
On 12/14/12 8:22 AM, Harry Halpin wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Ashok Malhotra 
> <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com <mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>> wrote:
>     Add Vol 2 dealing with Application Architecture?
> I strongly support Volume 2 being about Web application architecture. 
> Its a fast-moving space, and relating it to HTML and documents is 
> necessary, lest parts of the WebArch stack get left behind (which I 
> worry may happen to the SemWeb, for example). Volume 1 also has lots 
> of value, although it definitely could use some tweaks as well to 
> bring it up to date. Perhaps that could happen simulatenously with 
> applications in Volume 2, and then the documents could be clearly (and 
> realistically) related.
> To make the point, Web browsers are now effectively Javascript virtual 
> machines, with crossplatform interop being defined by the W3C and 
> ECMA. Thus, its better to think of the Web as replacing Java (where 
> interop was defined by SUN, and now Oracle), and thus a web of apps 
> rather than as a web of documents. Explaining this transition and 
> stating its new architectural requirements, including acknowledging 
> the security and privacy issues (esp. cookies) is of *utmost* importance.
> All this talk of declative vs. functional reminds me of teaching 
> Haskell to undergrads at Uni. of Edinburgh. Some would get very 
> excited and then proceed to stop using other programming languages, 
> calling them inferior - until they had to get a job, that is :) There 
> is of course a movement towards functional features in languages 
> across the board, and Javascript has many nice functional 
> capabilities, such as first-class functions, and designing APIs with 
> better async is now happening, i.e. "promises". Yet developing and 
> using these APIs still a black art for many WGs and developers, so 
> guidance is definitely necessary in this space.


So we have something along the following lines:

1. Programmable Web of Apps -- for the JS virtual machine
2. Actionable Web of Intentions -- for Web Intents
3. Web of Linked Data -- for Linked Data and Semantic Web.

Methinks, each of the above is the basis for specialization volumes 
derived from the existing core AWWW volumes.

>    cheers,
>       harry
>     All the best, Ashok
>     On 12/13/2012 5:16 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>         On 12/13/12 11:33 AM, Ashok Malhotra wrote:
>             AWWW is outdated and should be revised or withdrawn.
>             All the best, Ashok
>         - 1 for withdrawal.
>         +1 for tweaks that have more to do with clarification than
>         anything else.
>         AWWW is a solid piece of work, don't mess with it :-)



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