- From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
- Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:57:41 -0700
- To: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- CC: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
Thanks, Noah. This will be discussed before 11 AM tomorrow morning at the HTML WG, so I might need to slip out of the SPDY discussion for a while at some point. On 11/3/11 9:52 PM, Noah Mendelsohn wrote: > This e-mail from Peter Saint-Andre to the public-iri mailing list may be > of interest to the TAG. > > Noah > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: URL parsing in HTML5 > Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:22:35 +0000 > Resent-From: public-iri@w3.org > Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:21:50 -0700 > From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> > To: public-iri@w3.org <public-iri@w3.org>, public-html-comments@w3.org > CC: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Paul Cotton > (pcotton@microsoft.com)" <pcotton@microsoft.com>, Ian Hickson > <ian@hixie.ch>, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, Adam Barth > <ietf@adambarth.com>, Edward O'Connor <ted@oconnor.cx> > > After chatting during TPAC 2011 with Addison, Larry, Richard, Ian, Mike, > Ted, Julian (etc.), I'd like to share some thoughts about a possible > compromise / resolution regarding Issue 56 in the HTML WG: > > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56 > > Some observations and opinions: > > 1. It is unlikely that existing browsers will change their current URL > parsing behavior. (I am not judging whether that behavior is good or bad.) > > 2. Documentation of that behavior is out of scope for the revisions to > RFC 3987, and outside the charter of the IRI WG, because it's a matter > of URI [pre-]processing (RFC 3986) and not IRI processing (RFC 3987). > > 3. It is unlikely that RFC 3986 will ever be modified to recommend the > current behavior, and simply impossible before HTML5 is advanced at the > W3C (even if such modifications were desirable). > > 4. As far as I can see, the current behavior is in fact out of scope for > RFC 3986 and any future possible revisions to RFC 3986 because: > > (a) it is mostly or completely a matter of pre-processing of strings > that look like URIs/URLs/"web-addresses" -- we could call these > "candidate strings" or "proto-URLs" or somesuch to disambiguate them > from URIs > > (b) this pre-processing behavior is applied only in the web context > by browsers and software applications that want to be consistent > with browsers > > (c) because of (b), there is no great danger that this behavior will > "leak" into processing of URIs in general (mailto:, sip:, tel:, > URNs, and so on) > > 5. There's no necessity for work on documentation of the current URL > parsing behavior to happen at the IETF, given that it's out of scope for > the IRI WG. Although this work could be done as an individual (non-WG) > I-D at the IETF, I think it could more easily be done at the W3C, either > as part of the HTML specification or as a separate document (the latter > might be preferable so that it can be reviewed in a more focused manner > and referenced more easily by other W3C specifications, but naturally I > would leave such decisions up to folks at the W3C). [The IRI WG is still > responsible for rfc3987bis, but that's off-topic for this email message.] > > If folks can agree on the foregoing points, then I think it would be > productive to work on proposed revisions to the current text (or at > least what I believe is the current text): > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/Overview.html#parsing-urls > > I would be happy to make concrete suggestions during that revision > process if someone from the W3C could point to the preferred venue or > process (e.g., wiki page or bugzilla comments). > > I look forward to discussing this further tomorrow morning during the > HTML WG session: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0013.html > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > > -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
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