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RE: Revised HTML/XML Task Force Report

From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:04:47 -0700
To: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
CC: Norm Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
Message-ID: <C68CB012D9182D408CED7B884F441D4D05CB129E8F@nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com>
I'd like to see this task force report be more explicit and specific. I'd like to see the report be more specific about which problems are specifically related to HTML5, vs. issues with interoperability which have existed for longer than HTML5. 

"It seems that the world at large is unlikely to adopt polyglot markup as the standard way to encode all HTML documents, so this solution has limited applicability."

I think it would be helpful to be precise here. I'm not sure what "this solution" refers to in this sentence, or in which ways the applicability is limited. What are the limits? For example, think it would be useful to consider ways in which Polyglot markup could be modified to increase the applicability of using it for content that is recognized as being later processed by XML tool chains.

"Even this is not a 100% solution as is still possible to encounter HTML documents that cannot be represented perfectly in XML"

It would be helpful to elaborate how common such documents are and what kinds of problems in the lack of "perfect" representation might encounter.

"XML is unforgiving in the face of markup errors."

I'd like to see this stated more precisely -- XML parsers, following advice in the XML specification, are frequently "unforgiving" (fail, signal errors, abort, fail to parse), when they encounter markup errors.

I think know what you mean here and elsewhere, but a careful rewrite of the report to be precise I think would be helpful.


From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Noah Mendelsohn
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:26 PM
To: www-tag@w3.org
Cc: Norm Walsh
Subject: Fwd: Revised HTML/XML Task Force Report

Just noticed this did not go to www-tag. We will discuss, at least briefly, on the call this week. Please take a look before then.  Thank you.


-------- Original Message -------- 
Revised HTML/XML Task Force Report
Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:07:53 +0000
Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:07:15 -0400
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>

Hello world,

I took a stab at addressing the comments received so far as per my
email messages earlier today. The new draft is published at


Please send any comments that you have to the public comments list.

                                        Be seeing you,

Norman Walsh
Lead Engineer
MarkLogic Corporation
Phone: +1 413 624 6676
Received on Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:05:30 UTC

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