- From: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:22:08 -0500
- To: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>, Norm Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- CC: Amy van der Hiel <amy@w3.org>
A preliminary draft of the agenda for the TAG F2F meeting of 8-10 Feb. 2011
is now available at [1] and in text-only form below. A few notes on the
agenda in its current form:
There are quite a few significant agenda items for which the reading
material is not yet available. These are marked in red, and also (for
those with color perception problems) indicated in the text. If you are
responsible for generating such material, please make sure it's available
in time for TAG members to read it, and alert me immediately if you will
not have it ready after all.
Dan Appelquist has been unavailable lately, and there are several items
relating to his work that I would like to consider scheduling. These
include some or all of:
- Widgets and offline Web apps
- API minimization
- Deep linking
There are a few open slots, but I may later have to bump from the agenda
things that are tentatively scheduled if we wind up over-committed. Anyway,
DanA: please let me know which, if any, of the above you intend to prepare
for discussion.
TAG Members: there's a lot of detail in the draft agenda, and it's easy for
me to make significant mistakes. Please check all of this to make sure that
we're scheduling discussion of the things that are important, and that the
framing of the individual sessions is appropriate.
I will continue to update the agenda in place throughout the week, but I
will send alerts only when significant changes have been made. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-agenda
[1]W3C | [2]TAG
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
W3C TAG meeting 8-10 February 2011 in Cambridge, MA, USA
PRELIMINARY
Nearby: [3]issues list - [4]findings - [5]www-tag archive - [6]tag
archive - Actions: ([7]open, [8]pending review) [9]logistics
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open
[8] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[9] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-f2f-localarrangements.html
Agenda Summary
Tuesday 8 February
Agenda
08:30-9:00 Arrive & Set up. Please have your computers and network
connections set up for a prompt start at 9AM.
09:00-09:30
* [10]Convene, review agenda
09:30-10:30
* [11]Web Applications: Security
10:30-10:45 Break (15 mins)
10:45-12:00
* [12]Web Applications: Client-side state
12:00-13:15 Lunch with W3C Team - 4th floor (75 mins)
13:15-15:15
* [13]TBD
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-agenda
15:15-15:30 Break (15 mins)
16:00-17:00
* [14]Administration
Wednesday 9 February
Agenda
09:00-10:30
* [15]HTML-XML-Divergence-67: HTML / XML Unification (with Norm
Walsh)
10:30-10:50 Break (30 mins)
10:50-noon
* [16]TAG Priorities for 2011
noon-13:30 Lunch (90 mins)
13:30-15:00
* [17]HTML-XML-Divergence-67: HTML / XML Unification (with Norm
Walsh)
15:00-15:15
* Break
15:15-16:00
* [18]HTTP Semantics
16:00-17:00
* [19]URNsAndRegistries-50: Domain name persistence and the tdb
URI scheme
18:30-????
* [20]TAG Dinner with Norm Walsh - (details and time TBD)
Thursday 10 February
Agenda
09:00-10:00
* [21]scalabilityOfURIAccess-58: Scalability of URI Access to
Resources (Ted Guild will join us)
10:00-10:45
* [22]Web Applications: Client-side storage
10:45-11:00 Break (15 mins)
11-noon
* [23]TBD
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-agenda
noon-13:00 Lunch (60 mins)
13:00-14:00
* [24]URNsAndRegistries-50: Registries (with Philippe le Hegaret)
14:00-14:30
* [25]Open issue review
14:30-15:30
* [26]TBD
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-agenda
15:30-15:45 break (15 minutes)
15:45-16:30
* [27]Action item review
* Any other business
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Logistics
Venue
MIT, Stata Center, 8th Floor Reading Room
32 Vassar Street
Cambidge, MA 02139
See [28]logistics for further details.
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-f2f-localarrangements.html
Preparation
See "(required reading)" annotations in agenda items below.
Agenda Details
1. Convene, review agenda
+ Scribes: TAG members are encouraged to sign up by email in
advance of the meeting
+ Roll call
+ F2F Main Goals:
o Focus work on HTML / XML Unification
o Set TAG priorities and major goals for 2011
o OTHER GOALS TO BE SUPPLIED
2. TAG Priorities for 2011
+ Goals:
o Identify key success criteria for TAG's work in 2011
o Make a clearer plan for the content, form, and
expected date of TAG deliverables to achieve those
goals.
+ Background (these mainly relate to Web Applications, but
our discussion or priorities will not be limited to Web
Apps):
o [29]ACTION-434: on - Daniel Appelquist - Prepare
discussion of structure of what we want to do about
web apps architecture... - Due: 2010-10-18 - CLOSED
o May 2010 notes from DanA on ACTION-434: [30]Web
Application Architecture (these were prepared for the
June 2010 F2F)
o Email thread beginning with: [31]Re: ACTION-434: Some
notes on organizing discussion on WebApps architecture
o Email from Larry Masinter: [32]progress on web
applications architecture: a few thoughts
3. [33]ISSUE-67 (HTML-XML-Divergence-67): HTML / XML Unification
+ Norm Walsh will be joining us for these sessions.
+ Goals:
o Set goals and schedules for the HTML / XML Unification
effort (setting schedules may not be achievable now,
but we'll consider it)
o Review task force progress
o Look for ways in which the TAG can help this effort to
succeed.
+ Background:
o [34]ACTION-437: on - Tim Berners-Lee - Create a task
force on XML / HTML convergence - Due: 2011-06-01 -
OPEN
o Norm Walsh is chairing a group under the TAG's
auspices ([35]mailing list)
o See also:
# [36]Note from T.V. Raman (3 May 2010)
# [37]ACTION-433: on - Tim Berners-Lee - Help Tim
get in touch with staff etc. re XML/HTML
unification - Due: 2010-05-28 - CLOSED
# [38]ACTION-427: on - John Kemp - Read 4
distributed extensibility proposals and summarize
them w.r.t. proposals TAG has discussed to date -
Due: 2010-11-01 - CLOSED
# Discussion on 7 June 2010 F2F: [39]"TAG
recommends the formation of a task force to drive
the reunification of XML and HTML"
# [40]HTML/XHTML Compatibility Authoring Guidelines
(draft from HTML WG)
# [41]September/October 2010 HMTL WG poll on
distributed extensibility
# [42]TAG endorses "like SVG" extension mechanism
for HTML5
4. [43]ISSUE-60 (webApplicationState-60): Web Applications:
Client-side State
+ Goals:
o Review Ashok's update to [44]15 January 2011 Draft:
Repurposing the Hash Sign for the New Web (The version
to be reviewed is not yet available.)
o Get organized for further work in this area. TAG
"Product page" needed?
+ Background:
o Required reading: Ashok promises a new draft for
review at the F2F. Previous draft at: [45]15 January
2011 Draft: Repurposing the Hash Sign for the New Web
o [46]Discussion on 13 January 2011, [47]Discussion on
20 January 2011
o [48]ACTION-481: on - Ashok Malhotra - Update
client-side state document with help from Raman - Due:
2011-03-01 - OPEN
5. [49]ISSUE-60 (webApplicationState-60): Web Applications:
Client-side Storage
+ Goals:
o Review progress made since the last discussion.
o Get organized for further work in this area. What are
specific goals in terms of dates and deliverables? TAG
"Product page" needed?
o Currently tracking under [50]ISSUE-60, which is the
same one we're using for more transient client-side
state. Is ISSUE-60 appropriate for both?
+ Background:
o [51]ACTION-475: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write finding on
client-side storage, DanA to review - Due: 2011-03-21
- OPEN
o [52]ACTION-482: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write a draft on
client-side storage with help from DanA Due:
2010-11-30 - Due: 2010-10-27 - CLOSED -- it was noted
that this action was redundant with ACTION-475
o [53]Client-side Storage : this version was prepared
for the October 2010 F2F — Required reading: Ashok
promises a new charts for review, and he has requested
F2F discussion.
6. [54]ISSUE-58 (scalabilityOfURIAccess-58): Scalability of URI
Access to Resources
+ Goals:
o Review Henry's work on catalogs
o Discuss W3C traffic patterns with Ted Guild
o Discuss possible TAG interst in Denial of Service
vulnerabilities inherent in Web Architecture
o Decide on what, if anything, TAG wants to set
regarding goals and schedules for continued work on
[55]ISSUE-58
+ Background:
o [56]ACTION-390: on - Daniel Appelquist - Review
ISSUE-58 and suggest next steps - Due: 2011-03-01 -
OPEN
o [57]Email from Ted Guild requesting TAG best practices
document "on Caching XML Schemata" (note: this email
was sent in July of 2007); [58]followup email from Ted
in 2008
o [59]TAG Discussion of Ted's email
o TAG minutes of 11 Feb 2011 [60]Henry Thompson
announces premliminary version of a catalog (I infer
Henry has done work since Feb, but I'm not finding the
reference -- Noah)
o Denial of service attacks relating to recent Wikileaks
controversy suggest there are issues of Web robustness
that may be of interest to the TAG
7. Web Applications: Security
+ Goals:
o Consider John Kemp's note framing a security section
for the architecture of Web Applications TO BE
SUPPLIED - WILL BE REQUIRED READING
o Decide who will carry forward TAG work on security,
given that John's term on the TAG is ending
o Decide goals, delivery dates, and next steps for TAG
work on security
+ Background:
o [61]ACTION-417: on - John Kemp - Frame section 7,
security - Due: 2011-01-25 - OPEN
o See also:
# [62]ACTION-280: on - Dan Connolly - (with John K)
to enumerate some CSRF scenarios discussed in Jun
in Cambridge - Due: 2010-05-25 - OPEN
# [63]ACTION-33: on - Henry S. Thompson - revise
naming challenges story in response to Dec 2008
F2F discussion - Due: 2010-06-01 - OPEN
# [64]ACTION-340: on - John Kemp - summarize recent
discussion around XHR and UMP - Due: 2010-06-04 -
OPEN
# [65]ACTION-344: on - Jonathan Rees - Alert TAG
chair when CORS and/or UMP goes to LC - Due:
2010-06-10 - OPEN
# [66]ACTION-412: on - Dan Connolly - Try the
clarification question, blog item, or wiki
approach to metadata-in-uris vs CSRF - Due:
2010-06-07 - CLOSED
# [67]ACTION-435: on - Jonathan Rees - Consult
Tyler Close regarding UMP-informed web storage
vulnerability analysis - Due: 2010-06-22 - CLOSED
# [68]CORS, UMP and XHR by John Kemp (required
reading for previous F2F)
# Required reading: John Kemp note framing section
on 7 on Web Application Security - TO BE SUPPLIED
8. [69]Web Application Architecture: Design of APIs for Web
Applications THIS SECTION IS A PLACEHOLDER -- WILL BE UPDATED
WHEN DAN INDICATES WHAT, IF ANYTHING, HE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AT
THE F2F REGARDING APIS AND MINIMIZATION
+ Goals:
o Review and refine Dan Appelquists' writeup on API
design
o Decide whether the TAG wants to produce a Finding on
Design of APIs for Web Applications
+ Background:
o [70]ACTION-514: on - Daniel Appelquist - Draft finding
on API minimization Due: 2011-02-01 - Due: 2011-01-27
- OPEN
o Required reading from previous F2F: [71]Dan Appelquist
writeup on API Design - ([72]announcement email)
o [73]ACTION-461: on - Daniel Appelquist - Draft
"finding" on Web Apps API design - Due: 2010-12-31 -
CLOSED
9. [74]ISSUE-57 (HttpRedirections-57) and [75]ISSUE-14
(HttpRange-14) : HTTP Semantics
+ Goals:
o Update the TAG on progress made by the AWWSW subgroup
o At Jonathan Rees' request, discuss issue httpRange-14
+ Background:
o [76]ACTION-201: on - Jonathan Rees - Report on status
of AWWSW discussions - Due: 2011-01-25 - OPEN
o See also: [77]ACTION-282: on - Jonathan Rees - Draft a
finding on metadata architecture. - Due: 2011-04-01 -
OPEN
o See also: [78]ACTION-413: on - Dan Connolly - Suggest
a path thru some logic terminology that might speed up
httpSemantics discussions - Due: 2010-05-07 - CLOSED
+ There was a request to schedule this near the
[79]discussion of the tdb URI scheme.
10. [80]ISSUE-50 (URNsAndRegistries-50): Domain name persistence and
the tdb URI scheme
+ Goals:
o Discuss [81]The 'tdb' and 'duri' URI schemes, based on
dated URIs
o Decide next steps, if any, for TAG work on hyperlink
persistence
+ Background:
o [82]ACTION-477: on - Henry S. Thompson - Organize
meeting on persistence of domains - Due: 2011-03-15 -
OPEN
o [83]ACTION-478: on - Jonathan Rees - Prepare a first
draft of a finding on persistence of references, to be
based on decision tree from Oct. F2F Due: 2010-01-31 -
Due: 2011-01-31 - OPEN
o Required reading: Jonathan promises progress on
[84]ACTION-478 in advance of the meeting.
o Required reading: [85]The 'tdb' and 'duri' URI
schemes, based on dated URIs
o Required reading: [86]Persistent Reference on the Web
(unchanged since Oct. 2010 F2F)
o Closed actions and previous discussion:
# [87]ACTION-444: on - Jonathan Rees - Draft a
white paper on link persistence - Due: 2010-10-11
- CLOSED
# [88]ACTION-414: on - Henry S. Thompson - Prepare
a draft agenda, including goals and means, for a
proposed afternoon session with invited guests,
and circulate for discussion prior to a decision,
on the subject of addressing the persistence of
domain names - Due: 2010-06-01 - CLOSED
# [89]June 2010 F2F discussion of domain name
persistence; [90]October 2010 F2F discussion of
domain name persistence
11. [91]ISSUE-50 (URNsAndRegistries-50): Registries
+ Goals:
o Consider Larry's email framing TAG work on registries
TO BE SUPPLIED
o Decide next steps, if any, for TAG work on registries
+ Background:
o [92]ACTION-511: on - Larry Masinter - Send email
framing TAG work on registries - Due: 2011-01-20 -
OPEN
12. Administration:
+ Welcome new TAG members
+ Approve [93]telcon minutes of 20 January 2011
+ Future TAG F2F meetings
o Decide Spring 2011 TAG F2F location and dates
o Early heads up: TPAC in Santa Clara, 31 Oct. - 4 Nov.
2011
+ Group photo (we have new membership)
13. Open issue review:
+ Goal: review our list of [94]open issues — look especially
for issues that are open but dormant decide to assign
resource/close/leave as background activity.
14. Action item review:
+ [95]Pending review actions in [96]Tracker
+ [97]Overdue actions in [98]Tracker
+ [99]Open actions in [100]Tracker
_________________________________________________________
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/434
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/web-apps-notes.html
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Oct/0061.html
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Oct/0030.html
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/67
[34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/437
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-xml/
[36]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2010AprJun/0073.html
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/433
[38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/427
[39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/02/08-agenda
[40]
http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/html-xhtml-authoring-guide.html
[41] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-41-objection-poll/results
[42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Oct/0034.html
[43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60
[44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/01/HashInURI-20110115
[45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/01/HashInURI-20110115
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/01/13-minutes.html#item02
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/01/20-minutes.html#item04
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/481
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/475
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/482
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/09/ClientSideStorage.html
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390
[57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Jul/0200.html
[58] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Jun/0067.html
[59] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/13-tagmem-minutes.html#item07
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/02/11-minutes.html#item02
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/417
[62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/280
[63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/33
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/340
[65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/344
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/412
[67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/435
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/06/01-cross-domain.html
[69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/products/7
[70] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/514
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/10/WebappsAPIDesignNotes.html
[72] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Oct/0104.html
[73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/461
[74] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/57
[75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/14
[76] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/201
[77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/282
[78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413
[80] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/50
[81] http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-masinter-dated-uri-07.html
[82] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/477
[83] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/478
[84] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/478
[85] http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-masinter-dated-uri-07.html
[86] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/persistent-reference/
[87] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/444
[88] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/414
[89] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/06/07-minutes.html#item04
[90] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/10/20-minutes#item01
[91] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/50
[92] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/511
[93] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/01/20-minutes
[94] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/open
[95] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[96] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[97] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[98] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[99] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open
[100] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
Noah Mendelsohn for the TAG
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