- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:13:23 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Well, I gotta say everyone out there is quick. One of the things I put
off when I rushed out what was advertised as "rough" late last night was
checking the HTML, all the more obvious since I had put the "push to
validate as XHTML" button at the bottom. Not surprisingly, folks on the
what-wg chat found it quite amusing that someone who has argued for clean
separation of error and non-error cases posted invalid content. I take
your point.
FWIW, in this particular case, I would have been as happy to have early
indications of the errors, though I don't doubt that other users in other
cases would be happy having them silently ignored. At least in some
versions of my document (which was hand authored in emacs), the errors
were causing significant content to silently disappear. (In other cases
the errors were indeed mostly harmless.)
BTW: I see that some people on the IRC log seem to take offense at some of
the issues raised in my note, or at least they observe that the issues are
no way new to What WG and have been hashed through before. Fair enough,
and not particularly surprising I suppose, but please keep in mind that
these are being offered for consideration and debate by the TAG. There
are important pros and cons on both sides of most of these issues, and
it's our job to try and work through those, as from its own perspective
the HTML WG/What WG has already done. It's the TAG's charter is to help
ensure that specifications like HTML 5 fit effectively into the rest of
the Web. I hope you will support us and make constructive contributions
as we attempt to do that. I assure that I will do whatever I can to
ensure that contributions and issues raised by the TAG are as constructive
and well-considered as we can manage. Thank you.
Noah
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
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1-617-693-4036
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noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
Sent by: www-tag-request@w3.org
09/02/2009 10:49 PM
To: www-tag@w3.org
cc: (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM)
Subject: Potential HTML 5 Issues for Discussion
As you know, I have asked all TAG members to catalog the potential issues
that they've discovered in reading sections of the HTML 5 working draft.
As my initial contribution, I offer [1]. It's in >very< rough form, since
I'm running late tonight and wanted to get something in for discussion on
the call tomorrow. I'm sure that some or many of my concerns will prove
to be off the mark, or that others will have been poorly set out. These
are intended as rough notes to stimulate discussion, and to illustrate the
sort of information I think we need.
Most of these are issues that I discovered during my reading, but a few
are ones that I've heard from other TAG members or remembered from our
earlier discussions, and that I wanted to be sure we remembered to
discuss. I've set out space for groupings of "most important",
"moderately important", and "minor", but tonight have only focused on the
first section. I hope this is helpful.
As I've said before, nobody should assume that because we are reviewing
long lists of potential issues that the TAG will ultimately decide to
carry forward any or all of these as comments to the HTML 5 WG. That's
what the TAG will be considering in coming weeks. Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/TagHTMLIssues.html
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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