- From: Graham Klyne <GK-lists@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:50:31 +0000
- To: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- CC: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, "ashok.malhotra@oracle.com" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
There are (at least) a couple of such initiatives in the cultural heritage/archaeology community. One is STAR (http://hypermedia.research.glam.ac.uk/kos/star/). Generally, there's a fair amount of interest in using SKOS to refine data expressed using CIDOC CRM in RDF. There's also been a lot of interest in LCSH expressed in SKOS (Library of Congress Subject headings), but I'm not personally aware of applications. #g -- Jonathan Rees wrote: > Great. Can you give examples of applications that consume SKOS content > and do something useful with it? At CC we're doing something like this > (using NLM MeSH headings in SPARQL queries), but would like to hear > about other instances. > > Jonathan > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Felix Sasaki > <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de> wrote: >> An example for supporting this point: SKOS can be used to represent a >> thesaurus in an RDF-based way. A thesaurus can be used e.g. to enhance >> full-text search ("use all terms which are broader than my search term"). In >> XQuery full text search, you are able to use the same kind of resource (a >> thesaurus) with the same purpose (enhance search), but not necessarily >> relying on RDF for thesaurus representation. >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> 2009/11/23 Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org> >>> I'm with you... RDF per se has little to do with models of anything, >>> any more than XML or ASCII does; it's a way of *expressing* models >>> syntactically, which is the easy part. (RDF semantics is also helpful >>> discipline, but also brutally neutral.) You still have to create >>> vocabularies (ontologies) that do what needs to be done. >>> >>> The consumer use cases are the interesting part of the story - linked >>> data isn't much good if no one's using it - and I think they should be >>> sought out and/or developed. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> * Metadata model: what is the "data model" for typical metadata >>>>> applications - >>>>> the datatypes of the endpoints? >>>>> The model is RDF. We recommend that all metadate be encoded as RDF. >>>> RDF 'has' a data model -- things you can say. The question remains, I >>>> think, >>>> whether it is useful, productive, and appropriate to allow "anything you >>>> can >>>> say in RDF" to also be said in metadata. I think the requirements for >>>> metadata processing may mean that some relations have a much more >>>> restricted >>>> domain. >>>> >>>>> Metadata in other formats e.g. RDDL, should be translatable into RDF, >>>>> or >>>>> encapsulated in a RDF wrapper. >>>> It's going the other way that is also important. Imagine an audio player >>>> (WinAmp, iTunes, Windows Media Player) in which you had not just title >>>> and artist and duration, and so on, but allowed any of those to be >>>> arbitrary RDF assertions. I think the media player would suffer if it >>>> weren't >>>> possible to restrict the data model of "artist" to be arbitrary rather >>>> than the dc:creator. >>>> >>>> >>>>> * Metadata serialization: how can metadata be encoded in a >>>>> representation system, >>>>> be it RDF or something else >>>>> Metadata is serialized using standard RDF serialization. >>>> Yes, RDF is one serialization. >>>> >>>> >>>>> * Metadata vocabularies: what are appropriate vocabularies for >>>>> describing various >>>>> media objects and network services? What is the process by which new >>>>> vocabularies >>>>> can or should be developed, described, extended or changed? >>>>> There exist RDF vocabularies for several domains. Others need to be >>>>> created. >>>> I think it's easy to create vocabularies; the real difficulty is >>>> vocabulary >>>> mapping and also the scalability of metadata when merging metadata from >>>> multiple >>>> sources. >>>> >>>>> * Metadata linking: What are the various ways in which metadata can be >>>>> associated >>>>> with "data" or other resources? Link relationships, protocol elements, >>>>> mechanisms >>>>> for embedding metadata in various kinds of data? >>>>> I think this is issue 62: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/62 >>>> Issue 62 focuses on one way of linking; I don't think it is or should be >>>> the >>>> only way. >>>> >>>> Larry >> > >
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