- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:40:57 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
The agenda for the TAG teleconference of 21 May 2009 is now available at
[1,2], and a text-only copy is included at the end of this message.
I would like to call attention to the inclusion in this agenda of a list
[3] I've assembled of every topic I could find that we have discussed or
considered discussing since the previous F2F, as well as a list of open
actions extracted from tracker and grouped by owner [4]. These are
included under the agenda item "F2F Agenda Planning" [5], in the hope that
they will be useful in considering priorities for the upcoming F2F.
>>I would be very grateful if TAG members would look over these lists
during the next few days, and be prepared to discuss which of these
suggest significant focus items for the F2F and for our work in coming
months.<< Feel free also to point out omissions from the list at [3],
which was assembled manually and likely has some errors.
Raman has already strongly urged us to focus on ISSUE-60
(WebApplicationState). We have agreed to do so, but we have seemingly
been remiss in not yet discussing in email this week specific ideas for
next steps (I have some, but have yet to set them down in email.) So,
discussion of that during the next two days would also be very helpful.
So, we will ahve some preliminary discussion on Thursday of what our F2F
and future priorities should be, and we will pick that up again next week
when Henry and Tim are back with us.
Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/21-agenda
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly#issues
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly#actions
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly#F2FPlanning
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[1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: (Telcon) Prev: [3]14 May 2009 Next: 28
May 2009
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/14-agenda
Agenda of 21 May 2009 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: Larry Masinter (confirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: Henry, Tim
+ Note future regrets: Dan (June F2F), Raman (possible
regrets for F2F)
+ Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
+ Next Telcon: 28 May 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Henry
Thompson (confirmed)
+ Future scribes: Henry -> Dan -> Ashok
2. Approval of Minutes from previous telcons and meetings
+ [11]7th May 2009
+ [12]14th May 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
+ Reminder that chair [13]will be asking the W3C staff to
issue a Call for Exclusions for patents relating to the
[14]First Public Working Draft of our Finding on Usage
Patterns For Client-Side URL parameters. Also, for some
reason the dated link
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-url-20090415/ to
that finding does not resolve; we will designate someone to
fix that.
+ Reminder that chair has sent a [16]summary of materials
relating to TAG priorities and a [17]request that the next
round of discussions of goals and priorities be done using
email, starting now. So far, only [18]Tim has responded.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 23-25 June 2009 @ MIT ([19]local arrangements - W3C
member-only)
o 22-24 Sept 2009 @ MIT
4. F2F Agenda Planning
+ Background
o On the teleconference of 14 May 2009, we agreed to
make a serious effort to gather input for the F2F
Agenda
o Issues and topics we've discussed (or been asked to
discuss) since the last F2F include:
# HTML, XHTML, issue errorHandling-20, etc.
# LanguageVersioning-41 (formerly XMLVersioning-41)
([20]ISSUE-41)
# webApplicationState-60 ([21]ISSUE-60): Web
Application State Management
# contentTypeOverride-24 ([22]ISSUE-24 mime-type
sniffing
# UniformAccessToMetadata-62 ([23]ISSUE-62):
Metadata (also related to httpRedirections-57)
# IRIEverywhere-27 ([24]ISSUE-27) - overlapping
specifications for URIs, Web addresses, etc.
# CURIEs in RDFa, etc.
# XML Schema 1.1
# nameSpaceState-48 ([25]ISSUE-48 (I.e. what to do
about working draft
[26]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-2
0060329/)
# Geolocation and privacy
# POWDER
# Web Services Resource Access
# Efficient XML (EXI)
# Should W3C do work on device access APIs and
associated security issues?
# Content Negotiation (last [27]discussed at 3-5
March F2F)
# URNSandRegistries-50 (last [28]discussed at 3-5
March F2F)
# xmlFunctions-34 (last [29]discussed at 3-5 March
F2F)
# Discussion of TAG Priorities, planning TAG work
products (revised AWWW), etc.
o Open Action Items:
# Tim Berners-Lee
@ [30]ACTION-24 Clarify
[31]http://www.w3.org/2003/04/iri , perhaps
by using N3 Due 2009-06-17 IRIEverywhere-27
@ [32]ACTION-116 Align the tabulator internal
vocabulary with the vocabulary in the rules
http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswDboothsRules,
getting changes to either as needed. Due:
2009-05-13 HttpRedirections-57
# Dan Connolly
@ [33]ACTION-265 Work with Larry, Henry to
frame technical issues relating to the
vairous overlapping specs. about URIs, IRIs
and encoding on the wire Due: 2009-05-21
IRIEverywhere-27
# Ashok Malhotra
@ [34]ACTION-264 Draft agenda item for
upcoming telcon discussion of geolocation
and privacy Due: 2009-05-12 (no associated
issue)
# Larry Masinter
@ [35]ACTION-231 Draft replacement for "how to
use conneg" stuff in HTTP spec Due:
2009-05-13 genericResources-53
@ [36]ACTION-254 Send email to www-tag
announcing issue-63 Due: 2009-05-13 ISSUE-63
@ [37]ACTION-261 Followup with Mark Nottingham
and Lisa D. regarding Adam Barth's sniffing
draft Due: 2009-05-13 contentTypeOverride-24
# Noah Mendelsohn
@ [38]ACTION-257 Schedule TAG to revisit
progress in IETF/HTML liaison on content
sniffing (invite Mark Not or Lisa D?) Due:
2009-05-15 contentTypeOverride-24
@ [39]ACTION-258 Follow up with Larry around
extensibility of HTTP and the methods used
to extend it Due: 2009-05-19
@ [40]ACTION-244 Plan June TAG F2F Noah
Mendelsohn 2009-05-19 ultimateQuestion-42
@ [41]ACTION-268 Noah to announce trivial
action policy to group [Trivial] (see
minutes of 14 May 2009) Due 2009-05-17
ultimateQuestion-42
# Jonathan Rees
@ [42]ACTION-201 Report on status of AWWSW
discussions Due: 2009-05-13
HttpRedirections-57
@ [43]ACTION-204 Talk with Mark Miller about
web app security and report back Due:
2009-05-12 ultimateQuestion-42 (scheduled
for discussion on this telcon)
# Henry Thompson
@ [44]ACTION-23 track progress of #int bug
1974 in the XML Schema namespace document in
the XML Schema WG Due: 2009-05-13
namespaceDocument-8
@ [45]ACTION-33 revise naming challenges story
in response to Dec 2008 F2F discussion Due:
2009-05-15 URNsAndRegistries-50
@ [46]ACTION-113 HT to a) revise
composition.pdf to take account of
suggestions from Tim & Jonathan and feedback
from email and b) produce a new version of
the Elaborated Infoset finding, possibly
incorporating some of the PDF Due:
2009-05-13 xmlFunctions-34
@ [47]ACTION-121 HT to draft TAG input to
review of draft ARK RFC Due: 2009-06-01
URNsAndRegistries-50
@ [48]ACTION-232 Follow-up to Hausenblas once
there's a draft of HTTPbis which has advice
on conneg Due: 2009-05-13
genericResources-53
@ [49]ACTION-239 alert chair when updates to
description of xmlFunctions-34 are ready for
review (or if none made) Due: 2009-05-13
xmlFunctions-34
+ Goals
o Start building agenda for F2F
5. Request for TAG Consideration of [50]XML Schema 1.1 (XSD 1.1)
Candidate Recommendation
+ Background:
o [51]Rick Jelliffe email requesting TAG consideration
of concerns with XML Schema 1.1
o [52]Response from TAG chair (Noah) indicating that,
consistent with [53]pertinent provisions of the TAG
Charter, TAG members will be given the opportunity to
vote on whether to accept this issue, and if so, with
what priority.
o [54]Discussion on 14 May 2009 teleconference and
subsequent discussion on the www-tag@w3.org mailing
list.
+ Goals:
o Vote on whether to open a TAG issue relating to the
merits of the XML Schema 1.1 Candidate Recommendation
6. Security
+ Background
o On the teleconference of May 14, Jonathan asked that
we schedule for this week discussion of [55]ACTION-204
Talk with Mark Miller about web app security and
report back
+ Goals
o Discuss issues relating to Web security.
o Consider closing [56]ACTION-204.
7. contentTypeOverride-24 ([57]ISSUE-24):
+ Discussion will be led by: Dan Connolly (Dan has not
confirmed that he's available to do this; if not we'll
defer discussion.)
+ Background:
o TAG Finding [58]Authoritative Metadata (12 April 2006)
o Dan Connolly [59]suggests that we discuss the draft
[60]Content-Type Processing Model, by Ian Hickson and
Adam Barth; the draft proposes interoperable rules for
Content-type "sniffing" in browsers. Note that the
draft acknowledges at one point that it is in "...
willful violation of the HTTP specification.
[61]RFC2616]".
o 16 April 2009 TAG teleconference [62]discussion of
content type override and the Internet Draft cited
above. We agreed to pick up discussion on a telcon
within the next few weeks.
o [63]Larry Masinter email pointing to [64]Minutes from
the IETF/HTML liaison meeting in March, including
discussion of content sniffing.
o [65]ACTION-257 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule TAG to
revisit progress in IETF/HTML liaison on content
sniffing (invite Mark Not or Lisa D?) - due 2009-05-15
- open
o [66]ACTION-261 on Larry Masinter: Followup with Mark
Nottingham and Lisa D. regarding Adam Barth's sniffing
draft - due 2009-04-23 - open
+ Goals:
o Continue discussion started on 16 April 2009.
o Decide on specific steps TAG can take to maximize
impact of TAG Finding [67]Authoritative Metadata or to
otherwise positively impact industry directions
regarding Content-type "sniffing"
8. Pending Review Items:
+ [68]Pending review actions in [69]Tracker
9. Overdue Action Items:
+ [70]Overdue actions in [71]Tracker
10. Any other business
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[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/21-agenda
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/07-minutes
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/14-minutes
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0048.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/hash-in-url
[15] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-url-20090415/
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0138.html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0139.html
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0029.html
[19]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/06-f2f-local-arrangements.html
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/41
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/62
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/27
[25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/48
[26] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060329/
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#item03
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#item05
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/04-minutes.html#item04
[30] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/24
[31] http://www.w3.org/2003/04/iri
[32] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/116
[33] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/265
[34] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/264
[35] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/231
[36] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/254
[37] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/261
[38] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/257
[39] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/258
[40] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/244
[41] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/268
[42] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/201
[43] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/204
[44] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/23
[45] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/33
[46] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/113
[47] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/121
[48] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/232
[49] http://www.w3.org/tag/group/track/actions/239
[50] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-xmlschema11-1-20090430/
[51] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009May/0024.html
[52] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009May/0026.html
[53] http://www.w3.org/2004/10/27-tag-charter.html#Scope
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/14-minutes#item05
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/204
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ACTION-204
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect-20060412
[59] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0233.html
[60] http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/draft-abarth-mime-sniff/
[61] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
[62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/04/16-tagmem-minutes#item05
[63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0020.html
[64] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0020.html
[65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/257
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/261
[67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[70] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
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