- From: Ian Davis <lists@iandavis.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:21:44 +0100
- To: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Cc: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, W3C TAG <www-tag@w3.org>
Great summary Tim. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Tim Berners-Lee<timbl@w3.org> wrote: > Two snags occurred, as the years passed. One was that a bunch of RDF users > got the fact that it was good to use HTTP URIs, but didn't get the fact that > you should put the foo.rdf online so that people can look up what #color > means in it. And as they didn't do that, they didn't actually bother with > the "#" at all. The second fly in the ointment was that some people wanting > to use RDF for large systems found that they didn't want to use the "#". > This was sometimes because the number of things defined in the same file was > too low (like 1) or too large (like a million) and it was difficult to > divide up the information into middle-sized chunks. Or they just didn't like > the "#" because it looks weird. But for one reason or another people > demanded the right to be able to use http://example.net/people/Pat to denote > Pat rather than a web page about Pat. > This potentially led to huge failures in the whole RDF world, with systems > already built which just used "http://example.net/people/Pat" to identify > the document whether you like it or not. > I among others pushed back against using non-hash URIs for arbitrary things > his but eventually gave in. Are we in a position to unify the HTML and RDF fragment semantics so we can safely content negotiate the two formats? Especially now we have wider use of RDFa? In http://www.w3.org/mid/5D85BD4B-C366-400C-B095-B13352D73F43@w3.org you suggested it was OK to negotiate these formats so long as the same fragment was not not used as an anchor and a thing. That's quite hard to achieve consistently in practice. As an example see http://creativecommons.org/ns where http://creativecommons.org/ns#Work is both an anchor and an rdfs:Class Ian
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