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RE: New Draft of TAG Finding "The Self-Describing Web"

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:38:24 -0800
Message-ID: <BEBB9CBE66B372469E93FFDE3EDC493E017667B8@repbex01.amer.bea.com>
To: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>, <www-tag@w3.org>

I reviewed this in preparation for the F2F meeting.  Overall very good
and we should finish this off.

I still have problems with the RDF uber-alles statement of "RDF [RDF]
plays an important and distinguished role as the preferred technology
for creating self-describing Web data resources".  I disagree with the
"preferred" part.  Ironic that this assertion came right after you
showed how Atom was supporting self-describing Web data resources".

A few minor editorial points:
- "making available as Web representations of each such URI the
information needed to dynamically interpret the information in the
instance " I found a bit difficult to parse 
- I found the "good practice" inside the Good Practice a bit strange.  I
think you did it for extract purposes, but I'd prefer to have the good
practice only once.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] 
> On Behalf Of noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:40 PM
> To: www-tag@w3.org
> Subject: New Draft of TAG Finding "The Self-Describing Web"
> I am pleased to announce the availability of a new draft of 
> the TAG Finding "The Self-Describing Web" [1,2].  This is an 
> editors draft that has not been approved by the TAG;  I 
> expect that it will be discussed at the upcoming TAG F2F 
> meeting in Vancouver.
> Very extensive changes have been made since the previous 
> draft [3] was published, and many of these changes were 
> motivated by discussions [4] held at the June 2007 (Google) 
> Face to Face Meeting of the TAG [5].  In addition to removing 
> some of the introductory material that other members 
> recommended I drop, significant changes in this rewrite include:
> * A major new section introduces and highlights the standard 
> HTTP-based retrieval "algorithm" that user agents employ to 
> access self-describing resource representations.  (Focus on 
> this algorithm was a key priority for Tim in our reviews).
> * There is now extensive discussion of URI-based 
> extensibility, and of the ability of user agents to 
> dynamically acquire rules for interpreting new sorts of 
> content by retrieving OWL ontologies, namespace documents 
> (RDDL), etc.  Such dynamic discovery using URIs is now to 
> some degree a unifying theme for the latter half of the 
> finding.  Examples are also given of using URIs as the basis 
> for extensible attribute values (e.g. link
> relationships) and other similar data fields in Web representations.
> * The discussion of RDF and RDFa has been updated and 
> clarified and the section on GRDDL has been added. 
> * Numerous examples have been added.
> FWIW:  I don't think this draft is quite final, but we've 
> been through a number of significant rewrites, and I'm hoping 
> that we're starting to converge on something not too far from 
> this.  So, please review it with that in mind, but of course, 
> feel free to say so if you feel otherwise. 
> Comments on this draft should be posted to the www-tag@w3.org 
> mailing list, and they are all much appreciated.  Thank you.
> Noah
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments
> [2] 
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments-2008-02-08.html
> [3] 
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments-2007-05-24.html
> [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/06/01-minutes#item02
> [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/29-agenda
> --------------------------------------
> Noah Mendelsohn
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