- From: ashok malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:11:48 -0800
- To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
- CC: connolly@w3.org, www-tag@w3.org
AFAIR, Dan did not say that it was contradictory merely that it was different from other datatypes in that the lexical-to-value mapping is context dependent. And Dan is right, it is context dependent but I dont consider that a problem. I'm wondering what our friends in Schema would say if we requested a CURIE datatype. There are clearly problems with the syntax which need to be addressed. But would they warm to the semantics? Ashok noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote: >Dan, > >On yesterday's TAG call, you said (from the draft minutes at [1]): > >"QName is inconsistently defined in Schema -- abc:xyz can denote two >distinct values at two points in a document, which is not consistent with >the statement that there is a mapping from lexical to value space." > >So, I thought I'd look at the specificaitons From the published working >draft of Schema 1.1 Datatypes [2]: > >"[Definition:] In this specification, a datatype has three properties: > > * A ·value space·, which is a set of values. > * A ·lexical space·, which is a set of ·literals· used to denote the >values. > * A small collection of functions, relations, and procedures >associated with the datatype. Included are equality and order relations >on the ·value space·, and a ·lexical mapping·, which is a function on the >·lexical space· onto the ·value space·. > >[...] > >For some datatypes, notably QName and NOTATION, the mapping from lexical >representations to values is context-dependent..." > >So, while you (or maybe I) might prefer that the design were different, I >don't think it's fair to imply that the Recommendation is contradictory. >It makes quite clear that context-dependent lexical mappings are allowed. > >By the way, the treatment in Schema 1.0 is different, though I think it >would be fairer to say that it's loose or underspecified than that it's >contradictory. From [3]: > >"[Definition:] A lexical space is the set of valid literals for a >datatype. " > >Pretty broad, but I don't think the definition of QName is inconsistent >with that. The definition of QName found there is: > >"3.2.18 QName > >[Definition:] QName represents XML qualified names. The ·value space· of >QName is the set of tuples {namespace name, local part}, where namespace >name is an anyURI and local part is an NCName. The ·lexical space· of >QName is the set of strings that ·match· the QName production of >[Namespaces in XML]. > >Note: The mapping between literals in the ·lexical space· and values in >the ·value space· of QName requires a namespace declaration to be in scope >for the context in which QName is used. " > >Again, I don't think there's anything that implies context independence >for the mapping from lexical to value in general, and the Recommendation >is very clear that it's context-dependent for types like QName. > >Noah > >[1] http://www.w3.org/2008/02/14-tagmem-minutes.html#item01 >[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-2/#datatype >[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#lexical-space > >-------------------------------------- >Noah Mendelsohn >IBM Corporation >One Rogers Street >Cambridge, MA 02142 >1-617-693-4036 >-------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- All the best, Ashok
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