- From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:27:32 -0400
- To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Cc: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>, "www-tag@w3.org WG" <www-tag@w3.org>
On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Dan Connolly wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:17 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: >> Does this mean that the IRI following the GRAPH keyword also >> denotes a >> document? Or that the same iri can denotes both a graph and its >> serialization? > > No. It just means what it says. If I understood what it says, I wouldn't have asked for clarification. Care to be a little more educational? Does "represents" mean awww:represents, the relation between what comes back over the wire when you do an http GET on a URI and what the URI denotes? -Alan > >> -Alan >> >> On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:16 -0400, Jonathan Rees wrote: >>>> If I say, in SPARQL: >>>> >>>> select * from <http://example.com/graph1> { ... } >>>> >>>> then by my reading of the SPARQL rec (http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf- >>>> sparql-query/ >>>> ), http://example.com/graph1 is supposed to name a (named) >>>> graph. But >>>> some SPARQL servers take the URI in a FROM or GRAPH clause and >>>> use it >>>> with HTTP to fetch an RDF/XML or Turtle document, from which >>>> triples >>>> are obtained. By the httpRange-14 resolution, the 200 response >>>> means >>>> that the URI names an information resource. >>> >>> yes... >>> >>>> Therefore, at least some RDF graphs (or named graphs) are >>>> information >>>> resources, right? >>> >>> Strictly speaking, not quite; the SPARQL >>> spec includes this clarification: >>> >>> "The FROM NAMED syntax suggests that the IRI identifies the >>> corresponding graph, but the relationship between an IRI and a graph >>> in >>> an RDF dataset is indirect. The IRI identifies a resource, and the >>> resource is represented by a graph (or, more precisely: by a >>> document >>> that serializes a graph). For further details see [WEBARCH]." >>> >>>> >>>> I'm sure this has been discussed before... >>>> >>>> Jonathan > > -- > Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ > gpg D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541 0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E > >
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