- From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:17:38 -0700
- To: dbooth@hp.com
- Cc: richard@cyganiak.de, raman@google.com, seb@serialseb.com, www-tag@w3.org, kidehen@openlinksw.com, tthibodeau@openlinksw.com
see my earlier response. I think splitting hairs between resource and representation only works "so far". Booth, David (HP Software - Boston) writes: > > From: Richard Cyganiak > > [ . . . ] > > First, it seems clear that this is not a question of Web architecture, > > but rather a question of good practices. Neither setup violates Web > > architecture, but different setups might be more or less useful to > > clients. > > Well, the HTTP spec sounds pretty clear about what should happen, so it may be a violation of the HTTP spec to return the wrong thing, but I don't view it as a violation of the architecture. > > > > > Second, it seems worth to mention terminology. The original resource > > (at /resource in my example) is the "real" resource we are interested > > in. It's a "generic resource" because it is available in different > > formats. The format specific URIs identifies specific *variants*, > > which are *representations* of this original resource. However, by > > assigning URIs to those representations, we are turning the > > representations into resources of their own right. (Because, by > > definition, everything that is identified by a URI is a resource.) > > That is close, but not quite correct. The format-specific URIs identify related *resources*. They do *not* identify representations, even though they may well return the same kind of representations when you GET from them. In fact, a format-specific URI could even return different representations in the same format at different times or in response to different requests. For example, a PDF URI could return one PDF representation at one time and a different PDF representation at another time. > > In theory one *could* mint a URI to denote a particular representation -- a representation returned in response to a particular request on a particular URI at a particular time -- but that is not what's being discussed in your scenario. > > > > > Third, many people have voiced this opinion: If the client indicates > > that it does not support the format available at this URI, then HTTP > > 406 should be sent. (This is clearly a SHOULD, not a MUST, according > > to the language in RFC 2616.) > > > > Fourth, I would like to point out that the case discussed under > > "third" does not arise if the client is a normal *Web browser*, > > because they all have */* in their accept headers and thus indicate at > > least *some* support for *every* format. But the case does arise with > > other HTTP clients that do not accept */*. > > Good point. > > > > > > > I'm still unclear about one particular case: What should be done if a > > client indicates support for several formats, but prefers one over the > > others; and the URI is specific to one of the non-preferred formats? > > Example: > > > > Accept: text/html;q=1.0, application/rdf+xml;q=0.5 > > > > This client supports HTML and RDF, but it prefers HTML over RDF. > > > > If /resource.rdf is accessed, what should happen? The URI is > > specifically for the RDF variant. So we have a conflict between the > > resource (which is available in RDF) and the preference of the browser > > (which would rather have HTML than RDF). Should the server ignore the > > preference and send RDF anyway? > > My opinion: Yes. The user is probably testing the URI in a generic browser, didn't bother to change the Accept header, and want wants to see the RDF. > > > > > David Booth, Ph.D. > HP Software > +1 617 629 8881 office | dbooth@hp.com > http://www.hp.com/go/software > > Statements made herein represent the views of the author and do not necessarily represent the official views of HP unless explicitly so stated. -- Best Regards, --raman Title: Research Scientist Email: raman@google.com WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ Google: tv+raman GTalk: raman@google.com, tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
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