- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:34:23 +0100
- To: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Cc: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, www-tag@w3.org
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Tim Berners-Lee writes:
> Pat Hayes writes:
>> The basic problem, seems to me, is that y'all (by which I mean the
>> TAG mostly) are using words like "represent" far too loosely.
>
> The TAG uses (I hope) tag:representation only as a relationship
> between a tag:InformationResource and a tag:Representation, the
> latter being the class of (bits, metadata) pairs. It is not
> transitive. (I would say that its range and domain do not even
> overlap)
>
> When you see people on the www-tag list using words more loosely,
> they may be trying to understand the architecture, or suggesting it
> be modified, or talking about how systems other than the semantic
> web work, do not assume that the use of words is consistent with the
> constrained use in the arch document, and later discussions of the
> semantic web architecture, try to achieve.
_Mea culpa_. It is clear that (a webarch:representation of (an image
of Bill Clinton)), which is what you can get by issuing an HTTP GET
for
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg,
is not (a webarch:representation of Bill Clinton), whatever ordinary
language usage may suggest to the contrary.
And the TAG's httpRange-14 resolution depends crucially on insisting
in consequence that
(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg
webarch:identifies
(an image of Bill Clinton))
and _not_
(http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg
webarch:identifies
Bill Clinton)
I continue to believe that clarifying the relationship between
webarch language, e.g. webarch:identifies and webarch:represents, and
both ordinary language usage and usage in the formal logic/philosophy
of language traditions, would be helpful. . .
ht
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