- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:34:23 +0100
- To: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Cc: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, www-tag@w3.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim Berners-Lee writes: > Pat Hayes writes: >> The basic problem, seems to me, is that y'all (by which I mean the >> TAG mostly) are using words like "represent" far too loosely. > > The TAG uses (I hope) tag:representation only as a relationship > between a tag:InformationResource and a tag:Representation, the > latter being the class of (bits, metadata) pairs. It is not > transitive. (I would say that its range and domain do not even > overlap) > > When you see people on the www-tag list using words more loosely, > they may be trying to understand the architecture, or suggesting it > be modified, or talking about how systems other than the semantic > web work, do not assume that the use of words is consistent with the > constrained use in the arch document, and later discussions of the > semantic web architecture, try to achieve. _Mea culpa_. It is clear that (a webarch:representation of (an image of Bill Clinton)), which is what you can get by issuing an HTTP GET for http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg, is not (a webarch:representation of Bill Clinton), whatever ordinary language usage may suggest to the contrary. And the TAG's httpRange-14 resolution depends crucially on insisting in consequence that (http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg webarch:identifies (an image of Bill Clinton)) and _not_ (http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c07000/3c07700/3c07700r.jpg webarch:identifies Bill Clinton) I continue to believe that clarifying the relationship between webarch language, e.g. webarch:identifies and webarch:represents, and both ordinary language usage and usage in the formal logic/philosophy of language traditions, would be helpful. . . ht - -- Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh Half-time member of W3C Team 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGbpLPkjnJixAXWBoRAgRgAJ9SBsfTuuuGNwT5Z6WiBFFOyHzTDQCeJgN2 kE5PS2y3Zegt0+Xq8Uk6Lvs= =lV7n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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