- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:49:33 +0100
- To: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
- Cc: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, www-tag@w3.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Cowan writes: > Tim Berners-Lee scripsit: > >> When the word Representation is used, I prefer to use it strictly for >> the relationship between an information resource such as a page about >> a person and the (metadata, bits) pair, and not for the relationship >> between the person described and the (metadata, bits) pair. > > Suit yourself, of course. > > But I prefer to suppose that the (metadata, bits) pair you get when > fetching http://www.heritage.org/images/shakespeare.jpg is not merely a > representation of that particular JPEG, but also of Shakespeare himself, > as the publisher of that particular resource must surely have intended -- > they would scarcely have bothered to publish it if they meant it to be > just some JPEG rather than a picture of Shakespeare. Stop, you're both right [1]. The (metadata, bits) pair is a representation of the resource. The resource is a depiction (a kind of representation) of Shakespeare. To some extent, 'represents' is transitive, so, by transitivity, the (metadata, bits) pair also represents Shakespeare. Some, but not all, things which are true of Shakespeare's image are true of that particular JPEG. Clearer examples would be, perhaps, a map of medieval Edinburgh: http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_MAP/1_map_edinburgh_1582.htm#map or a caricature of Richard Nixon: http://www.vizcarra.info/fotos/historicos/politicos/RichardNixonCaricature.jpg or the MP3 for a particular recording of Beethoven's 6th: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/radio3/symphony6_beethoven_radio3.mp3 ht [1] http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75ishimmer.phtml - -- Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh Half-time member of W3C Team 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGbW8OkjnJixAXWBoRApoLAJ9Enw7mHMNe4y87GuM2L2BgTxrGsACdFlR0 K5opYAP/LQVIP4nDBk9Ezmk= =cGEG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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