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Re: Review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"

From: Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:38:24 +0200
Message-ID: <46D69E20.1070703@dfki.de>
To: "Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)" <skw@hp.com>, Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>, 'Susie Stephens' <susie.stephens@gmail.com>, www-tag@w3.org
Hi Stuart,

just a short note:
based on the fact that we have realized most of your comments, and you 
reading this discussion,
I guess you are OK with the current version of the document and 
therefore we can assume that the TAG is ok with the SWEO interest group 
publishing it as a W3C Interest Group Note.



It was Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) who said at the right time 
29.08.2007 11:26 the following words:
> Hello David, Leo,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Booth, David (HP Software - Boston) 
>> Sent: 28 August 2007 19:53
>> To: www-tag@w3.org; Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
>> Cc: Leo Sauermann
>> Subject: RE: Review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
>> I missed Stuart's review of this "Cool URIs" document 
>> http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/~sauermann/2006/11/cooluris/
>> when I was away on vacation, but recently saw reference to it 
>> and wanted to comment on one statement.
>>> From: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [ . . . ] wrt "Be on the 
>>> web": "Given only a URI, machines and people should be able to 
>>> retrieve a description about this URI from the web. ..."  This is a 
>>> little too loose, in that the description is not about the URI but 
>>> about the resource to which the URI refers.
>>> [ . . . ]
>> While I assume that the above statement reflects the TAG's 
>> accepted thinking on this topic to date, I think it is 
>> actually somewhat incorrect, and the original phrasing by the 
>> Cool URIs authors was actually better.
> Actually I stand by the comment that I made, though I think David is
> reading more into the intent of the comment than was intended.
> The original text spoke of description of a URI. Taken literally, there
> is very little of interest to describe of a URI: one might say to what
> scheme it belongs; one might parse out the authority, path, query and
> fragment components; one might be interested in how long it is. There is
> little more to say of the URI itself. However, I don't think it was the
> authors intent to encourage such descriptions. I believe it more the
> case that the authors intended that the thing to be described is the
> resource to which the URI is intended to be used to refer. That at least
> is the spirit in which the comment was made.
> On the subject of your concept of "URI declarations" I have not thought
> long and hard enough to comment in substance. That a given description
> is obtained directly or indirectly (via redirection) from a retrieval
> initiated using a given URI might afford that description some special
> status in the 'eye' of an agent processing it. However, I think that
> there are provenance and trust issues wrt to any description obtained
> that affect would in general affect an agents disposition to believe a
> given description. Some skeptisim on the part of the agent is probably
> required regardless of source, if it is to be robust in an open world.
> <snip/>
>> David Booth, Ph.D.
>> HP Software
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>> http://www.hp.com/go/software
>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not 
>> represent the official views of HP unless explicitly stated otherwise.
> Regards
> Stuart
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