- From: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
- Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:26:56 -0800
- To: "Bullard, Claude L ((Len))" <len.bullard@intergraph.com>
- Cc: "W3C TAG" <www-tag@w3.org>
I wrote: >> Len, I think your analysis completely ignores the effect of time >> and independent evolvability of components in a multi-organizational >> system like the Web. On Mar 8, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Bullard, Claude L ((Len)) wrote: > I understand that aspect perfectly, Roy. Sure, but you left it out of the analysis. We are talking about a design principle (I don't know why the TAG changed it to a "Rule" since we don't have rules) that declarative communication improves visibility of interactions, which in turn enables greater evolvability as the participants in the communication change over time. Thus, an analysis that talks about the run-time operation of a short-lived or closed system (like Airbus) is not going to encounter any benefits from the design principle. In order to get the benefits you have to look at the system as it evolves over the scope of years, not hours, and independent of any "flag-day" decisions wherein one organization decides it is time to upgrade. > I think you ignore that subjective systems > can be globally stable but create local instabilities. I am afraid I don't know what you mean by subjective systems. The Web is a social system and one of its design goals is to remain globally stable while encouraging local innovations. > As a context, the web is global. As a rule, RLP is > second-order friendly (a subjective or observer-based > cybernetic system). So far so good, but applying that > rule locally can create instabilities. It is a design principle, not the answer to every question. I think it would be helpful if folks were directed to the Principle of Least Authority that I described back in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Dec/0032.html http://szabo.best.vwh.net/interpretingpower.html because that also is a design principle that places long-term safety (knowing that change is inevitable) over short-term efficiency. > The trick is to tune it, Roy. See PID controls. > > The business intelligence guys are way out front > on this one. Umm, no, I think that completely misses the point. ....Roy
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