- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:36:00 -0400
- To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
- Cc: www-tag@w3.org, Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Bjoern Hoehrmann writes:
> > How about this instead:
> >
> > W3C Working Groups must resolve dependencies on unregistered
> Internet
> > Media Types by directly or indirectly registering these types in
> the
> > IANA media type registry. W3C Technical Reports must not
> encourage or
> > require use or implementation of unregistered media types.
Works for me.
> > How is Web architecture positively affected by following your
> policy in-
> > stead of mine?
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jul/0009
> > discusses how interoperability is negatively affected by your
> policy.
>
> First of all, thank you for the quick response and the suggestion.
>
> As to the substance, we were contacted in part because particular
> workgroups were concerned because of a desire to reference particular
> widely deployed types such as "audio/wav". While I personally have
> almost no direct familiarity with the history of debates on this media
> type, my understanding is that various groups have been involved over
> the years in so far unsuccessful attempts to register that type.
The registered name seems to be
audio/vnd.wave;codec=1
per
http://www.iana.org/assignments/wave-avi-codec-registry
and
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2361.txt June 1998
> So, for good or bad reasons it is in fact both unregistered and in
> widespread use. I think that your proposed text would essentially
> require any W3C group that wanted to produce a Recommendation that
> exploited such a type to be proactive in reopening debate in IANA (or
> other appropriate registration body) to get it registered.
Yes, exactly.
> Speaking for myself and not necessarily for the TAG as a whole, I
> don't think we should require that in the case where the type is
> already in widespread use, and where the workgroup in question is just
> another user. I believe that the sense of the TAG was to allow some
> latitude in such cases, and I have tried to capture that in the note.
There's always a certain amount of latitude in the W3C process; I don't
see much reason to put the latitude into the rules. The rule should be:
you must get all the relevant media types registered.
By analogy, occasionally people hypothesize namespace names of the form
http://www.w3.org/xyz
when W3C hasn't issued any namespace nor document called /xyz . I
haven't seen any of them
in widespread use, but suppose they did... if the IETF had a rule
that using such URIs in IETF specs was OK, I'd be pretty annoyed.
--
Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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