- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:22:38 +0100
- To: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
- Cc: www-tag@w3.org
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Norman Walsh writes:
> I'm comfortable saying that a namespace name is an information
> resource. Namespaces are a mechanism for disambiguating local names
> and I think anything you could want to express about them, you could
> express in a message.
I'm less comfortable -- I was trying an informal test
to distinguish information resources along the following lines:
Being an information resource or not is _not_ determined by what its
*presentation* is _about_ (*depicts* or *describes*). 'Moby Dick'
is, after all, _about_ a ship, a number of men, a whale. . . But it
_is_ a novel by Herman Melville. The Oaxaca weather report is
_about_ the weather in Oaxaca, but it _is_ a forecast. The HTML
spec is _about_ rendering semantics, markup, ... but it _is_ a
specification.
So in a mixture of AWWW-speak and linguistic philosophy, what (an
information resource) URI *identifies* is distinct from what it's
_about_.
Whereas insofar as (on the httpRange-14 'resolution' view) I
understand the situation, if you can retrieve (via the 303 route)
something from a non-information resource URI, what you get _does_
describe/depict the very thing that the resource identifies.
So for instance, presuming he moved the page and installed the
redirect, http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes/PatHayes.html both
identifies and describes Pat himself.
But on that account a namespace URI is pretty clearly _not_ an
information resource. . .
I don't (yet) find "exhaustably expressible in a message" a very
useful test -- consider e.g. the number three -- I'm pretty sure I
could give a pretty thorough expression of what 'three' is all about
in a message. . .
ht
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Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh
Half-time member of W3C Team
2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440
Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk
URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/
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