- From: Chris Sizemore <Chris.Sizemore@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:49:19 +0100
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well, see, I *do* know lots of things about the British Broadcasting Corporation. I just don't know what *URI* to use to identify that particular resource. I might reasonably choose http://www.bbc.co.uk, and assert the following: <chris sizemore> is employed by <http://www.bbc.co.uk> but, then later, when the owner asserts the following: <http://www.bbc.co.uk> is a resource of type <"portal homepage"> (crude example, but I hope the point is valid) the owner's assertion has rendered mine false, which I agree is absolutely her/his prerogative. again, my question is not really about the effects of the compromise on http-range-14; it is more about the knock-on effects of "a URI identifies what the owner of that URI intends it to identify." again, the difficulty I'm having conceptually is: how do *non-owners* of a URI know, unambiguously, what resource a URI identifies? this URI: http://www.flickr.com/photos/38333831@N00/22537567/ probably identifies a particular photograph, but the owner might intend for it to identify the Moon. and it'll be even more difficult to learn/second-guess the intentions of the URI owner with URIs that don't offer a representation of some kind, because then there are very few clues. and it sounds like a non-owner like myself CANNOT know, at least until the owner starts publishing some assertions, which MIGHT begin to disambiguate things a bit. if this is the case, then fair enough. I'm probably not seeing the big picture clearly enough, but I'm expecting this to be a difficult area for me over the next few years: 1) can *non-owners* of a URI *ever* know, with certainty, exactly what resource a URI identifies? if not, then doesn't everyone have to publish/own custom URIs for every concept about which they need to make assertions? 2) if I want to make assertions about a resource that I don't "own" ("love", for instance), what URI should I use to minimize mapping to other URIs which also identify the resource? I'm confused about how consensus around a URI is meant to develop. best-- --chris sizemore > if I start making assertions about resource > "http://www.bbc.co.uk <http://www.bbc.co.uk> ", am I making > blind, potentially misleading or useless, assertions? I am curious, how can you assert something that you don't know. Also, I think the motto of SW is "everyone can say anything about everything". Your assertions are always going to be your viewpoint on that URI and won't reflect the viewpoint URI's owner anyway. Once again, "it doesn't matter". But I am just an observer, not a member, of the TAG. So, take my opinion with a grain of salt. :-) Xiaoshu http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.
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