RE: [xml-dev] The subsetting has begun

I don't think the WWW-TAG list is the best place to have a discussion about Yet Another XML Subset. 


From: Elliotte Rusty Harold []
Sent: Fri 2/21/2003 4:16 AM
Subject: [xml-dev] The subsetting has begun

Sun's recently posted an alpha of J2ME Web Services 
This spec defines a subset of JAXP, SAX, and XML which is only 
suitable for processing SOAP messages. It is not suitable for generic 
XML processing. Among other sins, it permits parsers to throw a 
SAXParseException when encountering a document type declaration, and 
to not support non-predefined entity references. 

Note that although the spec is focused on web services, it does 
define an official XML API for J2ME that will be used for parsing 
documents other than SOAP messages. In other words, SOAP's decision 
to forbid the internal DTD subset is now being propagated into other 
domains. Fortunately the JSR-172 subset still allows processing 

I did not recognize any of the names in the expert group. It is not 
clear if there is any real XML expert in the group who actually 
understands XML at a deep level. However, if passed unfixed this spec 
and resulting implementations will be seen as normative by numerous 
other programmers who don't read W3C recommendations or hang out on 

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